Cell phone rights

Published Saturday, June 28, 2008

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June 26, 2008

To the editor:

At what point does a cell phone call when driving become dangerous? The answer for me is simple: I don’t care. Nobody has an exact answer.

The question is rhetorical, and reasonable drivers realize the answer easily. Any opinion coming from the idiotic perspective of someone that claims they have both the agility and the focus to perform those tasks simultaneously on any road without injury to themselves or others is ridiculous.

These people have failed to realize a socially accepted fact that licensed reasonable drivers at their most alert and responsible can not in their best efforts provide complete safety to themselves or others while using cellular devices.

The ever-changing variables involved in calculating whether or not the feat is safe in any environment are staggering, for example car type, road conditions, phone design, human ability and the most important unexpected distractions all favor the consensus opinion that if you can’t prove the task is safe in every situation, it’s not safe in any situation, period.

I find it amazing that for 15 years vehicle and cellular manufactures have knowingly taken money from people who simultaneously use their products in an unsafe manner. Instead they turn a blind eye to a profitable problem for them and a costly nuisance for us.

We enact laws against the public for using their products together, which adds to our state administrative costs. We also pay higher insurance premiums.

Without financial scrutiny against the manufacturers for encouraging and providing the environment and products that promote the unsafe driving practices as well as strict laws against the use of them on highways all of us will pay the cost either directly or indirectly.

I’ll offer the rhetorical answer to the rhetorical question above. The point when it becomes too dangerous is when it costs me, a taxpayer, money.

Get of the phone or get off the road. I don’t care which.

Clint Kerns

North Pole

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  1. theabowman
    6/28/2008, 6:13 a.m.
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    My sentiments exactly. I hope to contact my legislators over the summer and ask them to pass a law that many other states have making it illegal to talk on the cell phone while operating a motor vehicle.

  2. Linda
    6/28/2008, 6:41 a.m.
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    Not only talking, but texting is dangerous. Two teens told me that it is much safer to text than to talk while driving, because one can hold the phone in the left hand while holding the steering wheel and use the right to text while still "looking at the road!" I could hardly believe my ears!
    My mother was hit and injured and her car totaled by a woman who was talking on her cell phone as she ran a red light.
    Cell phones(texting or talking) and driving are not a safe combination.

  3. Toni Johnson
    6/28/2008, 6:42 a.m.
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    And the crazy part is that we need to legislate this. Are people NOT aware they are driving unsafely? And if so, what other activities are they engaging in while driving? Chowing down on that super size from MickeyD's? Yelling at the kids in the back seat? Or all 3 at once?
    I agree 100% with the variables quotient, people only think they are in control - until the kid darts across the street, the drunk driver swerves, etc.
    And so, we legislate common sense. Welcome to the 21st Century.

  4. Reader1
    6/28/2008, 7:26 a.m.
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    Cell phone registration would solve everything. Could use the registration fee (Of course there is a fee!) to pay for the medical care of people injured by driving cell phone users.

    There is no limit to what a government will do once the stupid door has been opened.

  5. ecray
    6/28/2008, 7:35 a.m.
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    I am perfectly capable of driving and having a conversation with a passenger. Why is it different if the passenger is on the phone or in the seat next to me?

  6. user6244
    6/28/2008, 7:55 a.m.
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    Okay lets make another law.
    The law should ban all forms of communication to include CB radios, radios, and passengers ( police and fire should not be excluded since we certainly wouldn't want one of these hero's to be killed while answering a call on the CB or even a cell phone). The driver must be shielded from all distraction from the person who is sitting to the right, the rear or both. Cup holders and anything that may assist eating while driving must go. mirrors inside the vehicle must go ( put the lipstick on before you leave the house), this all must happen because people as a whole cannot be trusted to act properly. All drive throughs must be banned because someone may actually conclude that driving up to buy a meal means it's okay to dip in and fish for a fry or two while driving.
    More video surveillance must be installed at intersections to capture the offenders (and to make money)...add the requirement to have 6 point harnesses installed, helmets and fire retardent suits. Studies show that many lives have been saved in nascar races millions of people will be saved on public highways too.

  7. JB
    6/28/2008, 7:57 a.m.
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    ecray- the use of additional motor skills (not the car, you) to use a phone while driving means you have less attention and motor skills available for the key function of driving and being safe while going from point a to point b; NOT your cool convenience of talking with your buddies while you take a risk with the life of the people driving around you. One distraction is all it takes, hopefully you never find that out.

  8. polarmark
    6/28/2008, 8:53 a.m.
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    i don't understand it. back before the advent of these technologies i managed to go through a whole work day (still do) with out having to be in contact with a friend or family member at all. my life then was not any less quality then without that contact. what is so hard to go through 8 or 9 hours without talking to someone? in fact we have just dumped our cell phone contract because it cost 80 bucks a month (2 phones) and we used the thing maybe 5 minutes per month (400 available). GET OFF THE PHONE.

  9. Ulises Gonzalez
    6/28/2008, 8:56 a.m.
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    user6244, thank you for your comments. You give me hope that perhaps not everyone in our fair bourough are sheeple.

    (sarcasm) I lke your proposal for more laws. Yes, more laws must be made to control my driving behavior. After all, look at how drivers currently don't litter, run red lights or drive drunk, because those actions are illegal. (sarcasm)

  10. James
    6/28/2008, 8:58 a.m.
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    I agree completely and it has been demonstrated multiple times that cell phone and cars don't mix. The morons who like to use the talking to a passenger, listening to the radio arguments are just plain ignorant.

    When it is legislated it will and can be fixed almost over night. The phone software can detect the presence of a car engine quite simply and shut the phone down. Most all of them also have GPS now for 911 and the phone can easily detect movement. The GPS has speed data as a part of a standard NMEA message that the phone used for location info. All the nay sayers will complain about what-if’s .. I’m on the bus, etc. They can just wait until they are not on the bus, etc.

    A very easy, no cost and transparent fix. Today your phone works and presto ... tomorrow it does not, if your moving say >10 mph. The data is refreshed at least once per second so no time to chat at the light either.

    Many other schemes are available too.

  11. Ulises Gonzalez
    6/28/2008, 9:24 a.m.
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    James,

    Spoken like a true sheeple herder!

  12. Aidey
    6/28/2008, 9:47 a.m.
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    James the way you are anti-everything I'm surprised you've found a way to justify using a computer.

    I would love to hear how comparing talking to someone in the car and talking to someone on the phone is an "ignorant" comparison. Seems pretty accurate to me.

    As for texting while driving, it IS illegal as of about a week ago.

  13. Touch_of_Sanity
    6/28/2008, 9:56 a.m.
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    I saw an interesting episode of Myth Busters once. They tested the influence of a cell phone conversation versus a blood alcohol limit of .08 (the legal limit in most states including ours.) The results were actually quite interesting, after multiple attempts the "drunk" driver did a better job of controlling the vehicle through the obstacle course then the person on the cell phone. FYI there is already a law on the books that allows for criminal prosecution against drivers who are shown to be the cause of an accident while their driving ability was being impeded by any activity. i.e. eating, talking, lip stick applying. Again as with gun control, more laws are not the answer, enforcing current law is.

  14. icerider
    6/28/2008, 10:04 a.m.
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    Ulises, its funny, you want to just go along and do nothing, yet you call others sheeple. So what are you an ostricheople, with your head in the sand. If I ignore it it will go away. Or maybe we should let more people get maimed or killed, just so we don't pass anymore laws and infringe on our freedoms. How free are the dead and injured? Nowadays people cannot seem to regulate themselves so, unfortunately the local government may have to. It sucks but it may be necassary to ensure public safety.

  15. aksheep
    6/28/2008, 10:36 a.m.
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    I am fully capable of talking on my cell phone and driving at the same time. The attention the cell phone takes is no different than talking to my children in the back seat and trying to defuse bickering in the backseat. Possibly the people that feel that using their cellphones while driving is unsafe, the logical answer for you would be STOP TALKING ON THEM. For the rest of us who can talk on the cell phone while driving, we are probably safer without the rest of you driving around because obviously you are the unsafe cellphone drivers. I for one know that my driving does not change when I am on the phone, but if yours does. PUT DOWN THE PHONE. Stop trying to impose laws on people, make your own decisions and leave the rest of us to do the same. Thank you, and Happy/Safe driving.

  16. internationa
    6/28/2008, 10:56 a.m.
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    Using a cell phone while driving should be a $200 fine. A second offense within a year would be $400 and cell phone consfiscated. Doesn't everyone wish I was Emperor of this State?

  17. Aidey
    6/28/2008, 11 a.m.
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    I agree aksheep. I use my cell phone while driving, almost exclusively on speaker phone or with my headset so I can keep both hands on the wheel. I have one touch dialing on my phone, and if for some reason I need to make a call while driving it is almost always one of the people I have assigned a number. If the roads are bad I almost never use my phone, same if I am driving somewhere I am not familiar with.

    I have been to quite a few car accidents through my job, and I can't remember a single one caused by a cell phone, but I can remember plenty caused by drunk drivers or drivers going too fast for road conditions.

  18. Bedasse
    6/28/2008, 11:01 a.m.
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    aksheep: Perhaps we can have you exempted from any future legislation. You are a very special person, and I don't doubt that you drive like a pro even while disciplining your children and talking on the phone. Why not take a pull off that flask while you're at it? We trust you!

  19. Non_Lemming
    6/28/2008, 11:54 a.m.
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    I find it unbelieavable that the new law that has gone into effect has totally avoided the cell phone issue altogether. It makes it a misdeamonor to "text" and a felony to "text" if the driver is found to be cause of an accident that leads to injury or death. In regard to cell phone use, it is still legal to chat, with or without a hands-free device.

    My opinion is one of many, but I for one would like to see the new law be amended to include penalties for drivers who utilize their phones without a hands-free device. I am not totally against cell phone use, just the kind that takes a hand away from the wheel. I have heard many complain that if we do that, why don't we do the same for truckers and emergency responders with their C.B. and the like, ... well, good point! We have the technology, why not demand a hands-free C.B. device for these drivers as well? We no longer live in the age of the Bandit and Rubber Duckie, ...let's advocate hands-free devices for all.

    It seems many who have posted believe that it is their God given right to drive and legislation/laws such as this impede with their freedoms. I disagree. Driving is a privledge, not a right. Should such a day come when a hand-operated cell phone use law be passed in Alaska, it will become simply another rule of the road. If you don't obey the rules, you don't get to be on the road.

  20. Aidey
    6/28/2008, 12:02 p.m.
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    A lot of newer fire trucks do have hands free radio devices. They look something like the headset a pilot wears, with big ear cups and a microphone that is positionable. It can be expensive to install these systems in fire trucks manufactured before it was an option, and they are very impractical in an Ambulance where people need to be able to talk to both the patient and the other crew members.

  21. Aidey
    6/28/2008, 12:05 p.m.
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    I should also mention that the hands-free device for fire trucks that I described makes it impossible to hear anything that is going on outside of the truck. In a big truck, where you can't hear much over the engine anyway thats not a big deal, but in a smaller vehicle, like a command vehicle that could be an issue.

  22. mike
    6/28/2008, 12:07 p.m.
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    The new law about texting is aimed at young people. It seems we always pick on the youth. Alaskans must hate their young. Just enforce the current laws. Personally it's not the talking on the phone but trying to see the tiny screen while driving down the road that gives me a problem. I suggest baning bifocals while driving.

  23. Tony08
    6/28/2008, 12:13 p.m.
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    Did or did not the state a few years ago already make it a law against talking on your cell phone while driving. If im not mistaken most states did because if they did not they would not be eligble for federal highway funds. Even so if the cops wont stop them whats the use of having the law its kind of like the tinted window thing just another charge if they actualy pull you over i sure have not heard many people getting nailed for tint and i see a whole lot of very dark tint still out there

  24. Aidey
    6/28/2008, 12:29 p.m.
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    Tony after a quick search of the Alaska administrative code and the state statutes I couldn't find any law restricting the use of a cell phone while driving. Unless it was passed in the 2008 session, because those weren't accessible to the database I searched.

    Many states do have laws restricting cell phone use, but I don't think it's gotten to the point where the Feds have fallen back on their old federal highway fund ultimatum.

  25. Bedasse
    6/28/2008, 12:50 p.m.
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    Here's a state-by-state rundown of laws relating to cell phone use while driving:

    http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/...

  26. Aidey
    6/28/2008, 1:29 p.m.
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    Thats helpful, I'm going to bookmark that for when I travel.

    There is a category there, novice drivers, which are treated separately. Alaska already has a provisional drivers license, I could definitely see adding a cell phone ban to that.

  27. anOldGuy
    6/28/2008, 3:14 p.m.
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    my 2 cents worth, (with the low value of the dollar, i might owe you for reading) I drive a delivery truck in Fairbanks Monday through Friday and it amazes me how many people are on the cell phone while driving. Granted, most are paying attention, and driving good. The one thing that stands out to me is that most do not use their turn signals when turning. How do I notice this? I am waiting to turn my truck into the lane, and the person is driving down the road and then stops and turns down the street I am turning from. They cost me time and fuel, and at 5 bucks a gallon for deisel, it costs me plenty.
    BTW, a few years back I was rear ended by a car in my truck on Airport Way. I seen him coming and let off the break because I knew he wasn't going to stop. He hit my bumper, and since I was rolling forward, there was minimal damage to his car. When the police arrived, which was only seconds later, I told the officer what happened, that he was talking and driving and didn't stop until it was too late to which the driver said, "I wasn't on my phone"...the officer replied, "you were too, I was right behind you" end of story.

  28. Aidey
    6/28/2008, 4:10 p.m.
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    Do NOT get me started on people who don't use their turn signals. There is very little that pisses me off more that someone who doesn't use them.

  29. alaskastoryteller
    6/28/2008, 4:55 p.m.
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    As far as talking to the person in the next seat I have a sign posted in my car that reads: "Get In, Sit Down, Hang On, and Shut Up. And if you're on meds now is a good time to take them." My other sign reads: "My guardian angel wears a helmet and is known to cuss."

  30. DenaliGuy
    6/28/2008, 5:08 p.m.
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    Heavy equipment is operated at speeds usually below 20 mph, so how many of you would randomly drive around a construction site?

    Thats what I thought.

    Point is this: Since the beginning of time, roadways and travel have been inherently dangerous. No law can be made or enforced well enough to change this basic fact. If other drivers scare you, they should. If you consider other drivers to be endangering your safety, its true. If you wish to remain safe, stay at home. Other than that, pay your money, take your chances. The flip side of the coin is to just go ahead and make being human illegal; box ourselves in and take away all our toys because we are stupid and irresponsible.

    Its not cell phone use thats dangerous, its 1/2 ton of metal + velocity + human fallibility; a potentially deadly mix under any circumstance.

  31. alaskastoryteller
    6/28/2008, 5:15 p.m.
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    If you don't care about the other drivers you put in danger, think about your family member or friend on the other end of phone will feel like if they hear your accident or of you dieing because you were talking to them.

  32. polarisdragon
    6/28/2008, 5:24 p.m.
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    ok so tell me this, i saw TODAY going down a road a trooper messing with his laptop that is mounted in there trooper car. so its ok for a cop to mess with a computer while driving but you cant mess with a cell phone?

  33. alaskastoryteller
    6/28/2008, 5:34 p.m.
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    Actually he wasn't messing with a computer he was running your license tag to see if you were wanted.

  34. Bedasse
    6/28/2008, 6:30 p.m.
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    "The one thing that stands out to me is that most do not use their turn signals when turning."

    Yes! Happens all the time. One hand for the wheel, one hand for the phone, no hand for the blinkers.

  35. alaskastoryteller
    6/28/2008, 6:43 p.m.
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    Remember when the bright light switch was on the floor board and you used your foot? Sorry just showed my age again.

  36. akflygirl
    6/28/2008, 6:46 p.m.
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    I think its a good idea just like the bases all around the U.S have done.. you can't have the phone in your hand at all.. you can be on speaker... or have a headset. Which i think is fine. You get caught first offense is 30 days you can't drive on the base.. and more times you get caught your days grow longer 90 days etc... I was almost hit by someone that was talking on the phone couple years back plus it was raining which made matters worse.. and yes if a cop sees you with a cell phone in your hand he will pull you over. I don't know where it is to be found in Alaska law.. but they just do like the seatbelt law. That's just what i think. Now texting .. haha i think that's worse then driving with a phone in you hand. You are looking down at the buttons you are pushing. and looking up ever 5 seconds. My friends like to do that .. which scares the crap out of me. Sometimes not even realizing they are drifting toward the left lane.

  37. grouchyolman
    6/28/2008, 8:03 p.m.
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    I'll sell all you cell phone users a hands-free device for a buck. I can get a bag full of them for about 3 bucks. They're made of comfortable rubber and ladies: (they can also be used to hold back a ponytail).

  38. mld32
    6/28/2008, 9:21 p.m.
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    HANG UP and DRIVE....Simple as that. Is it SO importnat that you must endanger others with you life problems?

  39. polarisdragon
    6/28/2008, 9:26 p.m.
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    so its ok for a cop to look up your personal info on a computer for no reason at all while they are driving but you cant talk to someone?

  40. newsreader
    6/28/2008, 9:31 p.m.
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    Best post goes to user6244, by far!

  41. Bedasse
    6/28/2008, 9:45 p.m.
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    "HANG UP and DRIVE"

    Seriously. Remember when we didn't have cell phones? Remember how we used to be able to last a few hours without calling someone on the phone? Remember when we didn't even have answering machines?

    And while we're at it, try this:

    HANG THE HELL UP WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN PUBLIC.

    Nobody wants to hear your telephone conversation. The people in the restaurant don't, the people on the bus don't, the people in line at the supermarket don't, and the people in your classroom definitely don't.

    We don't want to hear your cute ring tones, we don't want to hear who did what to whom, we don't want to know about your money troubles, and we most certainly don't want to hear you tell your boyfriend that you love him, over and over, until you finally get him to say that he loves you, too.

    GO OUTSIDE! GO OUT IN THE HALL! NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR YOU TALKING ON YOUR DAMN PHONE!

    And if you must talk on your cell phone in public, try to remember that your not on a freaking ship calling down to the engine room. Put the mouthpiece near your mouth and speak in a normal tone of voice.

    DON'T TALK LIKE THIS!

    talk like this

    For crying out loud.

  42. practical
    6/28/2008, 10:04 p.m.
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    My cell phone is my personal phone, home phone, and mobile phone. I keep my use to a minimum, get my work done and am constantly annoyed by idiots in front of me not paying attention because they are gabbing on the phone. For gods sake people! We did't have cell phones years ago and I think we got more done! Get a life! Chances are, most of your friends or coworkers will make it without you for a short bit. Quit being so insecure and realize that you can be by youself or that people can live without talking to you for short periods. I'm sorry to be so crass, but its ridiculous to be at an intersection on airport road and 6 out of 8 people are at the intersection are on the cell phones! Grow up for gosh sakes and if you HAVE to use your phone in your car, go hands free on your phone! Its still a danger, but at least we'll be a LITTLE bit safer to get home to our families.

  43. polarmark
    6/28/2008, 11:42 p.m.
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    i don't understand why you can't wait until you are done driving to have a phone conversation. how important can you or your conversation possibly be? especially if the call doesn't pertain to your work.

  44. fsjec6
    6/29/2008, 2:45 a.m.
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    There is solid research clearly showing that cell phone yakking is quite more dangerous than conversing with a passenger; those who claim otherwise are simply in denial. One of the conclusions was that one reason phone-talking is a lot more dangerous is that when potentially dangerous situations (entering traffic, for example) arise, passengers generally pipe down; phone talkers do not. Hands-free devices did nothing to change the results, since it was the drivers' ATTENTION that was lacking. And the episode of Mythbusters someone mentioned was a real eye-opener. Several of the correspondents above are thoroughly deluding themselves about their phone-driving, and are risking themselves and (more importantly) everyone around them simply to yak on the phone. Unless they're dialing 911, they are behaving like selfish asses; the sooner police can jerk their licenses the better.

    Driving IS inherently dangerous, but there is no reason NOT to find ways to make it less so. Laws are not necessary however, since there are technologies which will turn off cell phones in moving cars. No enforcement necessary; Make your choice: gossip, or drive.

  45. James
    6/29/2008, 5:41 a.m.
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    Aidey, you and AKSHEEP should get together and see if you can come up with a full set of DNA ... lol. Are you from the same gene pool? Do you folks also support drunk driving?

    Watch out ... you'll miss the mother ship when it comes in to take you folks away. And, you only get one departure pass.

  46. The_Alaska_Curmudgeon
    6/29/2008, 6:03 a.m.
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    The hard part for me is when I'm on the cell phone with one hand, sipping my espresso from the nearest drive-through with another hand, using yet anther hand to shuffle through my iPod to find a good tune, and using still another hand to give the finger to all those crazy drivers out there who can't control their vehicles as well as I can. With all that going on, why should I be expected to use my turn signals, much less keep a hand on the wheel?

    Geez, you busybodies just want to control my life, don't you?

  47. BigOldMooseHunter
    6/29/2008, 7:29 a.m.
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    What's a cell phone?

    Nothing like that out here....unless brought in by the 6244's of the world who get their knickers in a twist because it doesn't work here and they can't...what? Yak?

  48. aksheep
    6/29/2008, 9:05 a.m.
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    Bedasse and James,
    Umm no no and no. I do not support drunken driving thank you very much. As a matter of fact I dont even drink. Not on sip so with that said I am going to say that you are both sorely mistaken. I see plenty of bad drivers without the excuse of them talking on cell phones. The problem with both of you is you want to control EVERYONES LIVES. I have an idea for both of you why dont you worry about yourselves and your lives and leave us to worry about us. MY driving habits are very safe, never once been in an accident, NEVER ONCE. Have a great day, and maybe Youll see me talking on my cell phone! Feel free to honk and tell me hi.

  49. corinne
    6/29/2008, 9:12 a.m.
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    I'm with newsreader and polarisdragon.
    polarisdragon, don't you know that cops may do anything they wish, and it's okay? Including lying and being rude?
    It's all in the of protecting the sheeple.

  50. Dana VanDam
    6/29/2008, 9:49 a.m.
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    user6244 - I agree - nice post.

  51. alaskastoryteller
    6/29/2008, 10 a.m.
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    To make it simpler they just need to come out with voice activated built in cell phones. That way your hands are free and it just looks like you are talking to yourself and we all do that.
    The car manufacturers already have the technology for the cars to drive themselves, so one of these days things will be all under control. Let's just hope they aren't ran by Microsoft because then they will crash every 2 hours.

  52. newsreader
    6/29/2008, 10:29 a.m.
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    Man, I can't wait for that AKstoryteller...

    But, voice activated is so blase - I want THOUGHT activated!

    I wanna be jacked into the ether all the time - bring on the wet-ware! (microchip send/receive implants)

  53. newsreader
    6/29/2008, 10:30 a.m.
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    [Dang it! I mean NANO chips, micro chips are so in the past!]

  54. Bedasse
    6/29/2008, 11:19 a.m.
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    "The problem with both of you is you want to control EVERYONES LIVES. I have an idea for both of you why dont you worry about yourselves and your lives and leave us to worry about us."

    Like I said, you're the exception. We trust your judgment. And I know that it's important for you to keep in touch with your (Subway robber) friends:

    http://tinyurl.com/5gp2pj

  55. aksheep
    6/29/2008, 12:13 p.m.
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    Bedasse -- Thank You for your concern but im sure my driving habits have nothing to do with my choice in people with whom I may associate with. Once again thanks for the concern though but what you think of me has no relavance to this post. Once again if you see me driving down the road talking on my cellphone fell free to tell me hi.

  56. internationa
    6/29/2008, 12:18 p.m.
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    Best invention of my lifetime: Internet.
    Worst invention of my lifetime: Cellphone

    Illegal solution to worst invention: http://www.cell-phone-jammers.com/

  57. bogtrotter52
    6/29/2008, 9:11 p.m.
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    Call me old fashioned or just not with it, but I have found I can easily drive, shop, be in social situations, etc., without having to be continuously yakking midlessly on a cell phone.

  58. Corey
    6/29/2008, 10:23 p.m.
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    Touch_of_Sanity "FYI there is already a law on the books that allows for criminal prosecution against drivers who are shown to be the cause of an accident while their driving ability was being impeded by any activity. i.e. eating, talking, lip stick applying."

    No new law needed the blanket law of reckless driving should be good enough. Officer sees driver talking on cell phone and swerve issue citation. Makes since to me but then I am a simple type person ;)

  59. hambone
    6/30/2008, 2:31 a.m.
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    i thought i could drive and talk at the same time then i ran a red light....... now i know better. i still talk and drive im just more alert because i know what can happen.

    i put my cell on vibrate and answer whan its safe to do so.

    peace

  60. AKARMYWIFE
    6/30/2008, 2:40 a.m.
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    Everyone keeps asking what call could be so important that you have to answer it and continue it throughout your drive? Well a call from my husband in Iraq that unfortunately can not be resolved with a hey can you call me back in five minutes because he may not be there in 5 minutes is kind of important. Not to say I don't make my way to the side of the road to have the converstaion but I'mm still driving as I answer and manuever way to said destination. And yes it's illegal to drive on base while talking but people do it anyway, either by using speakerphone or hiding the phone when an MP rolls by.

  61. icerider
    6/30/2008, 9:26 a.m.
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    aksheep, many drunk drivers never had an accident or even a citation until they killed someone. In addition in one of your posts you gave the biggest reason not to be distracted by anything, including a cell phone, when you said "I see plenty of bad drivers without the excuse of them talking on cell phones." Nowadays the roads are horribly dangerous because of a general disregard for anyones well being but their own. People used to care about those around them, but not any more in the new me first generation your on your own. Regardless of your driving ability any distraction, including your cell phone endangers everyone around you. Is it worth loosing a family member, injuring someone else or going to jail because you missed something in that split second of distraction.

  62. bigchinasean
    6/30/2008, 9:52 a.m.
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    I know. I need to hang out with AKSHEEP. Sounds like an amazing person. I am surprised by the amount of justification going on. Trying to diffuse an argument in the back seat of your car while driving can also be dangerous. Just like talking on your cellphone while driving can be dangerous. AKARMYWIFE: pull over and talk. Unless of course you are in a hurry. Then it is your god given right to do as you please. It is strange reasoning in all. I mean I am sure more drunk drivers make it home with out killing anyone than ones who do or simply ones who get caught. By such perverse reasoning we could allow for the ability to concentrate or execute under certain conditions. Lets not blame the conditions and legislate. Maybe we could have a cellphone driving rodeo where if you prove your ability you can qualify to speak on the phone while driving And for people like AKSHEEP who can probably drive drunk, talk on the phone and diffuse an argument in their backseat, well those people deserve special consideration. I am not fit to judge. I still love this place.

  63. outraged
    6/30/2008, 2:35 p.m.
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    I mostly use my cell phone when I'm driving. It is a great time saver. I will continue to do so until it is unlawful.

    Boo hoo to all of you who can't do more than one thing at a time.

  64. MEL1776
    6/30/2008, 3:05 p.m.
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    As a thought experiment for those who like to use cell phones, have conversations, or otherwise be distracted while driving; would you still do so without a seatbelt and airbag, and instead had a stiletto blade mounted in the steering wheel pointing at your chest? Just picture it the next time you are tempted.

  65. che
    6/30/2008, 3:41 p.m.
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    i dont care what anyone does in their own car as long as they dont hit me and if they do they better have some really--really--really good insurance because my attorney will no doubt pull their cell phone history up and submit it as evidance ,but since everyone is a good driver that shouldnt happen.
    what i dislike are those pathetic idiots that smoke in a car with their kids sitting in there, i see this a lot.

  66. aksheep
    6/30/2008, 5:29 p.m.
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    And for people like AKSHEEP who can probably drive drunk, talk on the phone and diffuse an argument in their backseat, well those people deserve special consideration

    I dont know where is came from that I am a drunk, that drives around like that, but for the second time on therese posts I DONT DRINK. I will continue to talk on my cell phone while driving. If you dont like it DONT DO IT. Plain and simple worry about yourselves, and possibly go to some classes about multitasking it might make your lives more productive.

  67. Aidey
    6/30/2008, 6:16 p.m.
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    I love how just because someone admits that they drive and use their cell phone at the same time it automatically means they must drive drunk also. I, like aksheep, do not drink. I have also never been in an accident. You know what they say about assuming.....

  68. che
    6/30/2008, 7:50 p.m.
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    I have to get me a cell phone jammer figure that would be a lot of fun.

  69. Non_Lemming
    6/30/2008, 8:10 p.m.
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    I suggest everyone read the fine print, and the subsequent context, of the new law that is being put into effect.

    It will be illegal to manipulate your Ipod, a felony if it is proven that your actions caused the injury or death of another motorist, ... but not if your are foregoing one hand to hold your cell phone. The same type of manipulating action is required in these cases.

    This law was put into effect before all conceivable incidents could be explored. What if your Ipod is integrated into your stereo system, i.e. docking station on your sound system? Under the law, you are in violation of this new law. Why not the same for a person tuning their regular sound system? Why simply does the law apply to an Ipod device? What if your GPS system isn't installed on your car console, but on your phone? Does this situation constitute texting, or navigating your GPS system (which is protected from prosecution under the new law)?

    This is rash legislation, made into law before all conceivable ramifications could be explored. I'm afraid all this new law will offer is a field day for defense lawyers to get their client exonerated of charges due to the comparable actions required in one situation versus the other, ... ultimatley causing the tax payer more money.

  70. hambone
    7/1/2008, 5:01 a.m.
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    i havent had a wreck in 30 years!!!!

    i thought i didnt have a problem with talking on a cell and driving till i ran a red light while talking, now i pick and choose when i talk. i put my phone on vibrate and answer at a safe time.

    no we dont need a law but we do need education on when to use one.

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