Trooper fired only shots in confrontation with Fairbanks driver, spokeswoman says
by Jeff Richardson / jrichardson@newsminer.com
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FAIRBANKS - A man who was shot and wounded by an Alaska State Trooper in South Fairbanks on Friday evening remained hospitalized a day later as investigators continued to review the incident.

The trooper shot the man following a traffic stop at 8:22 p.m. near the Tanana River levee on Peger Road. Neither the name of the trooper nor the wounded man have been released. No arrests had been made by Saturday afternoon.

AST spokeswoman Megan Peters said early reports that the trooper was fired upon by the suspect were incorrect. Troopers released that information in the hours after the incident, but Peters said the trooper actually fired because the driver of the vehicle attempted to run him over.

Peters attributed the mix-up to confusion at a chaotic crime scene that made its way into an official statement before it could be corrected.

Troopers weren’t releasing many specific details about the incident on Saturday, citing an ongoing investigation.

A press release from Alaska State Troopers said that the suspect was driving a 2007 Suburban on Van Horn Road and failed to yield, resulting in pursuit by the trooper. That pursuit ultimately resulted in the trooper shooting the suspect, who was transported to Fairbanks Memorial Hospital for treatment.

Peters said she couldn’t confirm how many times the suspect was shot or the nature of his injuries. The press release said it appeared the suspect would likely recover at the time of transport, but Peters said she was unable to provide an update on the man’s condition, citing patient confidentiality.

Peters said it isn’t unusual for authorities to wait before arresting a suspect who is hospitalized. It gives troopers more time to investigate an incident. Authorities are also responsible for medical bills if someone is arrested while they’re being treated.

Peters said the suspect is not considered a flight risk.

There was also a passenger in the suspect’s vehicle, but that person was not injured and had not been arrested by early Saturday afternoon.

“I don’t know if that person is suspected of anything or is going to be charged with anything,” Peters said.

Under Department of Public Safety policy, the name of the trooper involved is being withheld for three business days while the incident is under investigation. The Alaska Bureau of Investigation is looking into the incident, which is standard procedure when a trooper is involved in a shooting.

Contact staff writer Jeff Richardson at 459-7518.
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« mjn wrote on Monday, Nov 09 at 06:17 PM »
I wonder what this has done for the rookie ride along? Will this soon to be trooper act this same way or will he not be able to defened him or her self in a real life or death traffic stop. Has he or she learned that the truth dosent matter just protect your self at all times even if it means deadly force. I would hope our police are learning something from this. I have truly belived in our police force and know not all troopers are bad apples But not all people are made for such a job its a tough one for sure. If anything we might learn for FT hood last week. Not all people can be trusted.
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« Disgruntled_Carrier wrote on Monday, Nov 09 at 12:46 PM »
No "ILOVEALASKA", we're not.

One of the reasons I read the comments section is to hear what other people have to say or contribute about the news.

No one is forcing you to read comments you don't want to read. If you don't want to read em', just skip 'em... just like the rest of us.

Sheesh.
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« Hmmmmmmmmmm wrote on Monday, Nov 09 at 12:41 PM »
I am!!!!! I to am a public safety provider. She was all over me in the comments because I did not handle an incident to her standards.
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« someguyinfbx wrote on Monday, Nov 09 at 10:15 AM »
Justice system? or is it just us in the system?
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« Pearl=W wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 11:40 PM »
duckhunter13 - summary justice - LEO judgement and execution, eh? Just like martial law? Hey who needs the right to defend/explain themself, if an LEO thinks you *might* represent a [unspecified] threat to [unknown/unspecified]others?

If Leo behavior makes them a threat to the public safety, then something urgently needs to be done to control LEO/LE Dept behavior. Excessive LEO power[use of force] is always a threat to a free society. And when LEOs are not held to rigorous, *factual* accountablity, it inevitably leads to [some] LEO's misuse of their extra-ordinary powers.

This IS the present situation, with previous ABI investigations of LEO killings.
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« Pearl=W wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 11:19 PM »
What seems to be lacking, in part is a sense of proportion; can an LEO shoot someone, just because the individual does not obey an order or signal [such as 'lights', or an order to get out]? That's not permissable even in a military environment. And we are [free] civilians, and LEOs are not our 'commanding officers'.

I would not want to see LEOs disarmed. Clean, decent LE is an important function for the benefit of the public/society, and we sometimes need them to go into/deal with dangerous situations. They need to be able to protect themselves, each other, and the public. So we grant them the power to be armed, and to use deadly force when, WHEN there is a *real* and *immediate* threat to them or the public of very serious bodily harm or loss of life, that can not, *CAN NOT* be avoided or dealt with in any other way.

And because we grant them the use of such extraordinary force, we expect/*trust* that they will be sufficiently trained, and will exercise sufficient judgement and self control, not to misuse that deadly force [or other extra-ordinary LE powers] when it is not absolutely necessary toprotect life, and most especially not for the purpose of enforcing the 'ego-gratification' of power/control over free citizens.

Where was the absolute need, the threat of serious bodily harm, or death, in an individual who "did not yield"?? What would justify the use of deadly force? Troopers have acknowledged there was no gunshots from the vehicle. The vehicle was not stopped [possibly didn't even realize they were beinging asked to stop, or even see the LEO?]. If the LEO's bullets hit the side of the vehicle, then the LEO shot as it was passing him, not as it was coming towards him.

Engaging in actions[s] that have a high probablity of resulting in the death or serious bodily harm of a [presumed innocent] citizen/civilian, is simply not acceptable behavior for a "Public Safety Officer", when there is not clear, immediate, and unavoidable threat to his, or the public's, life.

I would like to be able to expect a clear, honest, factual account, without bias, of what happened, from the subsequent investigation. Unfortunately, experience has shown me that the public is more likely to receive a 'packet' of justifications for the LEO's behavior, many of which will not 'wash' when exposed to a factual account of the actual circumstances. {Ref: Corwin Vent and many other LEO killings 'investigated' by ABI}

I would like to believe [trust] that they would remove an officer who unjustifiably threatened the life,and caused serious bodily harm, to a citizen, without real and immediate cause, and that the LEO would receive penalties commenserate with the harm he did to both the individual, and the public trust, but experience has shown this is unlikely.

I'll wait and see. Perhaps I will be wrong, this time. I hope so. And I hope the individual who was shot recovers without lasting physical disability.
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« duckhunter13 wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 09:07 PM »
mjn- It makes sense for most of the shots to be in the side. your first reaction is going to be to try and get out of the way and then shoot. They are not shooting completely to protect themselves but also any other officer or civilian that may come across this person.
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« mjn wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 06:49 PM »
I cant belive what has happened in fairbanks.If the trooper was really in fear for his life why then were the shots fired at the drive from the side of the car and not from the front and or rear.What about the dash cam or will it not be working?Sounds like a cover up to me.Will I need to tell my kids if your stoped by the police you better get out and lay on the ground.Have we really come to a shoot first and ask questions later?

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« duckhunter13 wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 06:43 PM »
When a suspect threatens your life no matter with what a car, a knife then Yes i believe that shooting them to save your own life as an officer is completely reasonable.

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« Wendee wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 04:57 PM »
I think what most people are alarmed about or trying to say is firing a gun at another person should involve a more threatening situation than "he wouldn't stop" or "he tried to run me over with a 4 wheeler."

That officer should have faced criminal charges.

Yes it is a dumb thing to do but is it worth a life?

Lost-for you to state that there is no "slant" in your thinking from a life style or experience is ignorant.

You have made many outrageous and unbelievable comments on here but even you can't seriously think your life experiences do not shape your opinions and beliefs.

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« duckhunter13 wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 02:45 PM »
You know what is sad, you look back at any police involved shooting and look at what people wrote no matter the facts either way its always "the cop should have moved" "The cop should have ran" stupid crap like that. My dad is a retired LEO from this town and if someone would have tried to run him over i would have hoped he shot him too. Look at the military guy on the four wheeler a couple years back tried to run the officer over 3 times before he was shot. and still "well he could have moved" you guys are idiots!
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« LostAlaskan99712 wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 02:37 PM »
"slants"?

This must be something you're more familiar with me, I don't think in those terms.

Stereotyping is the recourse of people with no real argument.
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« Wendee wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 01:59 PM »
Lost-being former law enforcement has warped you.

Once you have made contact with the law, regardless of how, you lose the ability to look at a situation without that old LEO slant or criminal slant or family of a loved one accused and harassed slant.. or whatever your original slant was...

If you didn't take this so personal you would be able to look and admit it looks and smells bad.

If this story were told to you in your former life you would have held this against the "perp" in a court of law! You would have held them up as the liar they OBVIOUSLY must be right? Only cops get to be confused and send out misinformation in a moment of duress.. what do they call that charge? Giving false information to a LEO???? You know the one....

Incomplete information, changing stories, no names .. weird is that normal for them not to name the "criminal/victim"?

Maybe I never noticed that before.. I thought when they killed or shot someone only the Trooper was protected from immediate identification....

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« LostAlaskan99712 wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 01:31 PM »
And talk about "due process"- you people have condemned these troopers without any first-hand knowledge of the FACTS, not right-wing bred conspiracy theories meant to incite anarchy, you idiots are so blind you can't even see your own blatant hypocrisy.

So let's disarm all troopers and take away their code lights. Punish them for "harassing" drunk/dangerous drivers, much less people with expired tags, insurance, etc. let's just make them "security Guards"?

...all because a few "rogues" don't think the rules should apply to them, right. Pathetic.

"mah rahts arr beein violayted! quick- make a law!"
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« LostAlaskan99712 wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 01:17 PM »
So the cops should just let people run them over?

Who among you can tell a person when they should or should not fear for their life? Do any of you have any idea the amount of WORK involved after an officer fires his weapon? Well they don't just blow the smoke out of the end of their barrel and holster it like a gunslinger, in other words it's not something ANY officer does as rashly or compulsively as they do in the movies or television, which, from what I've read here- is probably where most of you which-hunters attained your "knowledge" on Law Enforcement.
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« Pearl=W wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 12:45 PM »
The Troopers' 'difficulty' in settling on an acceptable version, probably rests on the fact that there is at least 1 witness, possibly more.

It's not that the Justice system is necessarily corrupt, just takes the Troopers.

Though the DA can theoretically file charges based on citizen complaint, I rarely hear of them doing so [never - in FBK].

They rely on the Troopers [or other LE Depts] to do the investigative work and provide evidence to support a case. So if the Troopers decide to stonewall, 'lose' existing evidence, lean on witnesses, lie, . . ., the DA has no case.

A case in point is Dan Scott, Ak Trooper. Reported for rape [on duty] while stationed in Fbk. Trooper investigation cleared him. Troopers transfered him several times to progressively more remote postings. He wound up in Aniak [I think it was] where over several years he engaged in a series of sexual assaults. Victims reported to the Trooper post. No action/investigation/collection of evidence, etc occured. He was not disciplined or removed. Finally, in desparation the victims in the village filed a civil suit against the State. Special Prosecutions/Sexual Crimes moved to charge Scott, but somehow the Troopers could not find any evidence to support charges. [This might have been partially because, while stationed in Fbk, Scott probably had participated in other [sexual] crimes, about which he might have been willing to talk, in his outrage that he was being charged at all]

So, this serial sexual offender, who committed his offenses on duty, in uniform, was bargained out with just 3 1/2 yrs. There were 3-4 victims from that one village willing to testify. Who knows how many previous victims at his past postings might have been willing, had a real investigation been conducted.
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« minername wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 12:14 PM »
KTVA is now reporting that the Trooper shot the motorist because the motorist wouldn't stop. I'm not kidding - look for yourself

http://www.ktva.com/ci_13738601?source=most_viewed

This is the 3rd version of the story from the Troopers - that is so fun.

1) The KTVA video clip says Trooper shot motorist because motorist wouldn't stop.

2) Previous Trooper story was that Trooper shot motorist after motorist stopped, and then tried to run over cop with his car (Newsminer and Anchorage Daily News)

3). Trooper story before that was that cop shot motorist because motorist was shooting at him. Later it was determined that only the Trooper fired shots. (Newsminer)

Troopers can't seem to get it together to fabricate a workable lie here. I still don't think they have a story that works. I hope there will be a 4th and a 5th story - that would be fun. How many Alaska State Troopers does it take to fabricate a believable story about why they gunned down a motorist? Can they do it? WOW - these Troopers are not only evil they are DUMB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Funny part is . . . they may get away with it. "Justice system" is corrupt. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic for America. Look what we've become.
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« Pearl=W wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 12:12 PM »
Richard - they don't [troopers can be QUITE selective about who they perform 'their duty' for, just as they are QUITE selective about which records they keep]

But they didn't in the past either, when I was inexperienced and foolish enough to actually believe that they were primarily interested in LE and Public Safety. I speak of the agency as a whole, and the manner/nature of the command, because, as I've said many times before, there are lots of decent Troopers in the ranks.
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« RichardHead wrote on Sunday, Nov 08 at 12:05 PM »
The number one reason I like living in this area: Because most of you idiots make me look brilliant:-) What scum!! I hope that when you are in dire need of a LEO, they never show....
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