Palin sees dip in popularity in Alaska, rest of nation
Published Thursday, October 30, 2008
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Stumble It!WASHINGTON — Gov. Sarah Palin electrified the conservative base of the Republican party when she was first picked as Sen. John McCain’s vice-presidential running mate, but polls say she has become a polarizing figure since then in her home state.
Palin’s supporters regularly refer to her as the “most popular governor in America.” But while her approval rating remains sky-high among local Republicans, she’s lost the support of Democrats and independents who once formed a significant portion of her base.
“Before all this started, her approval rating was almost universally positive with independents,” said Ivan Moore, who often polls for Democrats. “She’s really taken a hit among Democrats and independents.”
Palin’s popularity with Alaska voters has dropped precipitously, from a high of roughly 90 percent this spring — long before she was selected to join the McCain ticket — to an approval rating now of around 60 percent.
Not bad for a governor, but nowhere near the support she enjoyed before making her debut on the national stage.
A statewide poll conducted Oct. 23 by Ann Hayes found about 63 percent of respondents have a favorable opinion of Palin, with 47 percent having a very favorable opinion.
Palin’s negatives are about 35 percent, according to the telephone survey of 400 likely voters with a margin of error of roughly 5 percentage points.
“She enjoyed a tremendous level of support, and it’s now beginning to seriously erode,” Hays said. “That’s a significant drop in that matter of time when you consider that you should be the home-state hero.”
A Rasmussen poll released Wednesday showed similar numbers, with a 61 percent favorable rating among Alaskans.
Palin’s popularity started to slide into the mid-70s in July when the dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan first made headlines, according to separate polls by Moore and Hays.
But Palin’s popularity was back up to 80 percent by the time she was unveiled as McCain’s running mate at the end of August.
Hayes said her polling data shows the biggest loss of support for Palin was among independents, though she sees the governor falling in popularity with Democrats and Republicans, as well.
Marc Hellenthal, a pollster who regularly works with GOP candidates, said he sees a drop among Democrats and independents, but that Palin is gaining support among Republicans.
“She was the most popular politician with Democrats, but that’s not true anymore,” Hellenthal said. “She’s being viewed as more partisan now.”
State Rep. David Guttenberg, a Democrat from Fairbanks, echoed that sentiment.
“She’s no longer above the fray. She’s being mean and vindictive,” Guttenberg said. “If you’re a Democrat, she’s being phenomenally partisan. And if you’re a Republican, you’re pissed because she’s dragging down your presidential candidate.”
Even with the erosion of support among voters on the left, Palin still enjoys a 92 percent approval rating among registered Republicans in a very red state, Hellenthal said.
There are about 125,000 registered Republicans in Alaska, compared to roughly 77,000 registered Democrats. Both parties are dwarfed, however, by the nearly 263,000 undeclared or nonpartisan voters in the state, according to the state Division of Elections.
Palin’s growing partisanship could make her transition back to state politics — should McCain not win the White House — a potentially rocky one.
Rep. John Coghill, a Republican from North Pole, said it will be up to Palin to set the tone for working with state lawmakers after Tuesday. “A lot depends on how she returns to Alaska,” he said.
Coghill said Democrats have “burned up” a lot of goodwill with the governor over the Troopergate investigation. But there also remains some bad blood among some Republicans.
“There’s a difference between working with someone and being a ‘yes man,’” Coghill said. “I’m not interested in being a ‘yes man.’”
Coghill said the petroleum production tax and the natural gas line contract with TransCanada are issues that are likely to come up during the next legislative session beginning in January.
Guttenberg, a Democrat, agreed that relations between with the governor will likely be more strained when the Legislature reconvenes in January.
“The relationship is up to her,” he said. “The Democrats are not going to be so friendly anymore. She’s going to have to work harder for her priorities.”
“It’s going to be a different landscape for her completely,” Moore said. “She’s going to need to tap into a bunch of political skills that she hasn’t had to use before.
“Before she got by on her popularity, now she’s going to need to be more diplomatic.”
Moore said he’s not convinced the governor is up to the task.
“I don’t think she’s very practiced at admitting her faults and taking criticism well,” he said.
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100% favorable here. :)
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I spent all my young adult life in Fairbanks, and I have serious issues with your erstwhile governor. How could the people of Alaska vote in a person so unbelievably braindead & blinded by religious dogma that they don't believe in Evolution; and even more embecilicly, gobal warming? Are you all returning to the dark ages up there? What have you got against logic, rationality, & scientific thought? Pipeline Pete Houghton, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Thailand
Of course her popularity is dropping in Alaska (and elsewhere but most significantly in Alaska); people are finally getting to know the real Sarah. Her ethics violations, her ploy to play the "plain woodsy girl" ticket while she spends $150k on clothes and $22k on hairstyling and make-up, her constant claims of open and transparent administration when hers is rapidly becoming one of the most restrictive in Alaskan history.... I have long said she is a hypocrite and a fraud and, frankly, she can no longer hide the fact she is both of those and worse. People are catching on to her and they don't like what they see.
As pipelinepete correctly points out she is braindead and a religious fanatic. She thinks because Russia is next door to us she is therefore an international relations expert. She thinks because she nominally heads the Alaska National Guard she has significant military experience. Most of all, she thinks because she can wink and mug for the camera she has what it takes to be vice president.
The sad thing about the upcoming election is either way it turns out, we lose. If McCain wins (as is unlikely) she is just a missed heartbeat from the presidency. If Obama wins, then she will come back as governor for two more years. I thought Murkowski was bad but Palin makes him look positively rosy in comparison.
I hope someone files an ethics complaint on her "House Gate". For House Gate information go to web-site below, scroll down, and click on the second video.
http://politicsanew.com/2008/10/14/sarah...
You all are too funny!
Pete - glad you left for Thailand...you are clearly too smart for the rest of us!
I am sure the Thai's can better use your superior intellect over there....
Just don't eat the ice cream - I did once and regretted it for quite some time
Dobieman says it right!! If you are around Ms Palin, watch your back, your wallet, and your sons! Being "cute" and winking is not what I want to see in any national (or state) political figure. She has really done a dis-service to women who should be respected and listened to because they are knowledgeable (she has shown she is not knowledgeable). I guess she has NEVER heard of the word integrity, much less know and understand the meaning of the word.
I agree that Sarah is mean-spirited and vindictive. The McCain-Palin campaign has used the same old GOP tactics of fear and divisiveness this campaign season, yet they claim they want to heal the nation. But that's okay with Sarah, because she is a good Christian woman and God will forgive her sins. Why is it that the people who most strongly preach tolerance so often are the ones guilty of practicing intolerance? Sarah has shown herself to be just another selfish politician looking out for herself.
Why do we never see one article about Joe Biden and what he has been up to. Latest is the Obama campaign has put a gag on him because every time he speaks he comes up with something they didn't approved. The only thing he has said that made any sense was that this country will be put to a test if Obama is elected. Did the NewsMiner print that story. How about his mean attacks on McCain. Got have to admit, The NewsMiner is unfair and unbalanced when it comes to presenting both sides. If elected, we in Fairbanks will never heard anything about the President, but we sure will have daily coverage of what the Vice President Palin is up to.
FreeDarfur-go online and read the Pennsylvania and Delaware papers. They are full of Joe Biden articles. The newsminer is a local paper. Sarah Palin is from Alaska. It's not really surprising or complicated. Local interest stories trump national stories in a local paper.
As far as Governor Palins popularity is concerned, my biggest issue with her is the constant lies she continues to repeat at her rally's. She has driven me to change my party affiliation. Her, Young, and Stevens have made me ashamed to be a Republican.
FreeDarfur do you realize that Joe Lieberman stated the same thing back in Jan 08'. But when McCain was asked about it he changed the subject and said well I've been tested. So when you say that the NewsMiner didn't report that, then how do you explain when McCain's sidekick Lieberman said the same thing. I feel you bring claims up about one person, but also remember that either McCain or his camp has done or said the same thing. Like this new guy they are trying to Associate with Obama; Rashid Khalidi. The McCain camp is all over this but do you realize that McCain has funded this same man and his group in the amount of $448,873. So when you live in a glass house you should not throw stones..
don't cast your pearls before swine. sarah should have just said no and stayed home. personally i'm insulted with how the rest of the usa has treated sarah. and i am glad they are going to get what they deserve.
"Why do we never see one article about Joe Biden and what he has been up to."
FreeDarfur It is all because the liberal media is using witchcraft to sabotage the election! But don't worry, there is a reason McCain chose her for his running mate. Sarah has been cleansed from the evils of liberal witchcraft and is going to save us all from free health insurance, social security, science based education for the kids, and will make perpetual wars a mainstay for when the little god fearing kids get out of creationism schools that they will have something to go and do in foreign lands for God and country.
Pete! You old dog! That was your ENTIRE young adulthood??? wow. This is your favorite apprentice, wondering if you were still alive. . .I am still at my same retirement address in Southeastern AK. I cannot find ANY of your old contact info but will start an internet search. Please contact me! If you google me you will get enough info to send a msg that I will receive almost instantly, well within minutes.
As far as your comment above, rest assured I am part of the 35%. . .
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Go Sarah! Believe the media hype if you want to but she still has done good for the state. Maybe those that think she is so bad would like to return your energy rebate checks.
When the negative stories about McCain/Palin out number the negative stories about Obama/Biden by about 6 to 1 is there anyway she/they could stay in the high numbers?
When counting the negative stories between her and Biden, it is over 180 to under 40. Look at the difference in the coverage about her clothes and what he said about the USA getting hit by terrorists within 6 months.
The DNM had 6 negative stories about her in the paper in one day.
Given the way the press is covering for Obama/Biden and the amount of money they are spending, it is very surprising McCain/Palin are staying so close in the polls.
"Maybe those that think she is so bad would like to return your energy rebate checks."
Yeah imcold, she sure was generous with HER money there, huh? Of course the legislature had nothing to do with the $1200 and it was all Sarah that made that happen. You would think more people would recognize her extreme generosity as one of her more endearing attributes. on a personal note I was able to use that $1200 to buy a larger carburetor for my airboat and increased its power (and fuel consumption) by 20%! Just glad to be doing my part for the oil companies, God bless em all...
Alaskans were just so darned glad to get rid of Frank, they didn't realize they voted in such an unethical theocrat until the national press started digging deeper than most Alaskans had. Voting in "the enemy of my enemy" obviously has its downside.
The McPalins are in the press because they keep doing such stupid things in their campaign. McCain calls Obama a socialist and says he's "redistributing the wealth" because Obama's plan puts a fairer tax burden back on corporations, many of whom have gotten out of paying taxes altogether with their offshore accounts and favoring tax laws of the last two decades. McCain's plan of cutting taxes on the top one percent, touting that companies will then "create wealth" and trickle some of their profits onto working Americans is complete BS. They trickle the profits into their own pockets, along with decent wages and benefits, then when their rip-off businesses go sour, the taxpayer pays to bail them out. But ditto-heads believe their lying "entertainers" even when it's in their own best interest not to! "Obama is bad and John McCain is good". Well, he IS good for them and their ilk.
McCain's personal way of "creating wealth" was to leave his injured wife for a 24-year-old, beauty-queen alcohol heiress trophy wife. Her daddy bought his political career. Then he went and chose a trophy VP candidate with no regard for who she really was or what she really knew, and now Alaska is the laughing stock of the nation. Which is really sad, because Ron Paul beat McCainiac in the Republican primary in Alaska, which showed a lot more integrity than we're showing right now. McCain and Palin represent the worst of the Republican party, and that's why they're getting so much bad press. Sheesh! Even prominent, well-known Republicans are jumping ship because they're putting "country first" by supporting Obama.
So my question is - - who is serving my state?
Palin on the stump
Stevens convicted but insistent on running again
Who is in charge?
Who is putting Alaskan interests first?
none:
Just click on PipelinePete's name (userid, handle etc..like yours is "none") and it will take you to a page where you can send Pete a message directly and you can include your email address if you like for him.
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Wow! A poll of 400 people. Were they, I don't know, at an Obama rally?
EVERYBODY, and I know A LOT of people, all have tremendous respect and support our governor even more.
Go Sarah!
[looking cautiously around for my stalker--B4V]
buboy, don't blame the DNM for reporting what's going on nationally ... Palin has taken a hit in her popularity rating. Every major media organization is reporting that.
From the lower 48 - a shoutout to my Alaskan fellow citizens...
WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON UP THERE?
So far, we've concluded that Palin is:
A mooch, of the first order.
A "Christian" Dominionist nut case.
A liar.
A flirt.
Not very bright but willing to open mouth while inserting foot.
Now, you may not have known all this about her during her election for governor up there, but now the facts are out.
Who in the world would work with this woman now?
How in the world could you trust her with your budget?
Isn't there some decent folk who would remove this ilk from her position and elect some other decent folk to run that not-really-so-big-or-complex state government?
Really, folks....we just don't "get it" down here?
How did it go so very wrong in your neck of the woods?
From the lower 48 - a shoutout to my Alaskan fellow citizens...
WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON UP THERE?
So far, we've concluded that Palin is:
A mooch, of the first order.
A "Christian" Dominionist nut case.
A liar.
A flirt.
Not very bright but willing to open mouth while inserting foot.
Now, you may not have known all this about her during her election for governor up there, but now the facts are out.
Who in the world would work with this woman now?
How in the world could you trust her with your budget?
Isn't there some decent folk who would remove this ilk from her position and elect some other decent folk to run that not-really-so-big-or-complex state government?
Really, folks....we just don't "get it" down here....seriously.
How did it go so very wrong in your neck of the woods?
Now don't be so hard on our Lady. I consider myself far from a Palin supporter. I'm independent, I didn't vote for her. I worried about her statement to focus on the Mat-su, and her "barracuda" reputation. Still, I think she's done a fine job and, despite many disagreements will likely vote for her as a governor in two years.
I also like(d) McCain. I admire what he's acomplished both in and out of the Senate. I liked his values and voting record. I am extremely turned off by his campaign.
I was going to vote for McCain, but then he campaigned. I have now voted for Obama... partly because McCain has run such a negative, run-away-from-his-ideals campaign and partly because Obama has made a lot of good points. I'm not a Libby nor am I a Red-Neck, but I am hopeful no matter which way this election swings.
Sarah Palin's "so-called" Popularity doesn't Give Sen. Stevens any "coattails", that's For Certain!!Right, Sarah??
"You Betcha!"--Sara says!!
Sarah has her eyes on being in the spotlight more than she has her eyes on running the government of Alaska and have ya noticed the roads are stilling getting plowed, the lights still work? ie we could save a lot of money by just getting rid of the governor position all together....go sarah go and please keep on going over to russia and your like minded socialist ideals.
Gee..only 63% favorable after taking on the VP slot. For the politically uninitiated, running for VP is SUPPOSED to hurt your popularity because your job is to relentlessly hammer the other presidential candidate while claiming yours can do no wrong. 63% is a VERY good number.
One of the reasons she attracts such ire from the Democrats is that she is doing EXACTLY what she was picked to do...hammer Democrats and rally Republicans.
She is doing a great job of that. Joe Biden comes to town and attracts 200 people counting the motorcade. Sarah Palin brings out 10,000 in bad weather ;-)
"Really, folks....we just don't "get it" down here?
How did it go so very wrong in your neck of the woods?"
Well mommadona, it is a long and complicated story. Suffice it to say that the pipeline and big oil of the 70's changed everything here, and the right wingers started entering by the planeload. Then when the oil companies dumped the unions in 85 and started hiring their help direct from Texas, Louisiana and Oklahoma, things further eroded. Not that I have anything against those places, it is just that they are mostly big Republican strongholds with strong right wing ideals and it brought up an element of the population that created Sarah Palin. My point is, this state was not at all like it is today before the oil companies entered here. Even with the oil money, it was the worst thing that happened to this state. If you want, think of Palin as the Alaska's, (or mother natures) revenge on the lower 49 for fouling Prince William Sound with oil. Yes, God works in strange and mysterious ways!
I don't think Sarah Palin upsets democrats because she is hammering them. She upsets
me (a not infrequent democrat) because she is brainless; just like the Bush. She isn't simply
rallying republicans, she is rallying ignorance. She is a cheerleader. She (and the Bush) are examples of the dumbing down of politics. It goes with out saying that there are democrats like this as well.
I don't quite understand ic2020. I really don't understand why we don't expect our politicians
to be intelligent? If Sarah Palin were a doctor I bet no republican would visit her, though she'd
make for a nice receptionist.
I have definitely slipped from the 'very favorable' category to the 'unfavorable' one (I am one of those 263k independents mentioned above). I was surprised by the number of skeletons that came tumbling out of Ms. Palin's closet when she was picked for VP candidate. And I don't mean just the 'troopergate' business (I don't think Wootten should be allowed anywhere NEAR guns OR badges, but Sarah showed a disregard for right and wrong in what SHE did, too). I am especially bothered that she seems to have a quality that I am always suspicious of: an unreasonable thirst for power. People who have this are hardly ever constrained by ethics or laws in their pursuit of authority. As an example, I have NO DOUBT that she is NOT ready to lead the whole United States; yet she has apparently convinced herself that she IS, and is now trying to convince everyone else. To me, this means she is willing to put herself and her ambitions ahead of everything else, including the good of AK and even the whole USA. To be sure, most politicians are like this, however I think the root of her popularity among non-republicans has been that she did NOT come across as just another lyin' thievin' partisan politician. That image has slipped badly, and taken alot of dems and independents with it. The word 'diva' has started circulating in reference to Sarah (with all the negatives that term implies), and I have to unfortunately agree that it fits.
I also believe that some of her popularity was based on the fact that almost everyone was overjoyed that she kicked Murky's butt all the way to Pluto. Merely undoing alot of that arrogant jerk's work (remember the jet?) was appreciated. I was fine with her as governor of AK, but I'm not with her as backup president. And alot of the statements she's making now are very divisive. When she returns as governor I think she's going to find that the 'honeymoon' is over, and not everyone is still all starry-eyed anymore. I think how things go will have alot to do with how she takes that.
However, to me, she is not weighing McCain down, because I would not vote for a Rep this cycle anyways; they need to reorganize, dump their ideological radicals, and become much more 'real world' and centrist in their platform before I'll vote for them again.
Oy.
jroosterdude - - do you really believe all that nonsense
and insinuation and twisting of events?
And gee whizz- some black people are angry at the treatment
they've received in this culture! Shocking!
But for heaven's sake, if they get uppity and
say it out loud, then how horrible.
Please, dude. You have to be smarter than your
email indicates.
Here's some facts for you:
Most of this scare stuff about Obama, designed
to make him seem "other" and "Stranger," are
guilt by association tactics. As Obama
said last night, next they'll be calling him a communist
because he shared his toys with other children in
kindregarten.
As opposed to McCain, whose tactics are a
continuation of the Bushness of the past 8 years
that has driven this country to near ruin.
He and Palin rouse the mob anger of his crowds,
playing off base fears, in a desperate attempt
to woo votes. Shameful.
The choice? Your imagined possible horrors,
or a continuation of our current real horrors.
Pick one.
Well said jroosterdude
Can someone explain to me how Ayers, who is a professor at a university is a terrorist? I don't get it.
If he is such a terrorist, as some seem delighted to reiterate over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, then why hasn't he been put to death? Why isn't he in Guantanimo (sp?)? Why isn't he in jail?
The only reasonable explanation is that this whole "terrorist" label is incredibly overblown, or, perhaps, entirely made up.
I guess jcockdude never heard about the experiments where the whites DID, IN FACT, give blacks diseases as experiments?
Also, didn't some of the right wing religious nut jobs say that we deserved 9/11? Weren't there some incredibly popular and prominent televangelists who said it was the result of America's homosexuals and woman's libers? Black preachers weren't the only ones. The only thing this proves is that going to church is bad and un-american. For further proof, just check out www.godhatesfags.com. ;)
**** PROUDLY SUPPORTING OUR NEXT PRESIDENT - Mr. Barrack Hussein Obama!
You REALLY need to visit snopes.com, jroost. Your 'facts' are like a laundry list of misinformation. Pure baloney. Laughable . . .
I have to admit, one of the reasons I look forward to the next 4-8 years is that the mindless ideological element of the republican party is going have a multi-year conniption fit. Should be fun to watch. Hopefuly other republicans (the more intelligent and thoughtful ones) will turn to the task of pulling their party back out of lala-land.
"When she returns as governor I think she's going to find that the 'honeymoon' is over, and not everyone is still all starry-eyed anymore. I think how things go will have alot to do with how she takes that."
When she returns to Alaska politics she wont be here long. She has gotten a taste for the national scene and she will once again dump her Governor of Alaska position to make a run at 2012. We are a stepping stone, don't you know? You betchya! Oh no Joe, say it isn't so! Doggonit! I do hope when she returns she dumps this North Dakota persona or whatever that was she developed for the Veep job.. It is down right sickening.
jroosterdude: All of your "Facts" are lies cooked up by racists like yourself. Here are some REAL FACTS about your candidate:(Never mind the idiot woman that's trying to buld her political career out of this geriatric trainwreck)
Now join hands and say it out loud:
President Barak Hussein Obama, a natural Born American Citizen,
Vice President Joseph Biden
Looser Senator John McCain, not born in the USA,(FACT) signed a damning document against his country to get to live in Trangs Villa for 4 years,(FACT) converted to Buddhism,(FACT) preached against the American Imperialist Govt,(FACT) had a love child while in "Captivity", with his Vietcong lover.(FACT) Also destroyed 5 airplanes,(FACT) gave millions to the Palestinians,(FACT) was a personal friend of PLO Leader Yasser Arafat.(FACT) Not even Alaskas right wingnuts deserve this traitor!
pipelinepete: Alaska is full of Thai restaurants. Why isn't Thailand full of Alaskan restaurants?
Oh, and not to trash you too hard, but the next time you want to describe someone as imbecilic, you'd make a better case if you spelled it correctly.
Yeah, I suspect you're right Akb. Her ambitions are such that I now doubt if gov of AK was ever her real goal just, as you say, a stepping stone. And S, basically to me you just demonstrate that the dem side can also play very fast and loose with reality. At best, your statements only tell SOME of the truth, the parts that tend to make McC look bad.
imcold,
If I'm not mistaken the money you are referring to, belongs to ALL Alaskans, as does all the oil, drilled from State land.
So, the money does not belong to SARAH, ITS YOURS!
So all you have to do, if you want to thank someone, JUST LOOK IN TH MIRROR!
Let me just go ahead and get these out of the way to save everybody some time:
B...b...BUT THE LIBERAL MEDIA!!
B...b...BUT BARACK "HUSSEIN" OBAMA!!
B...b...BUT JOE BIDEN!!!
B...b...BUT AYERS!!!
What's that you say? Oh? I'm too late? Oh...
It seems people liked each other a little more when this campaign started. It's sad to see our love wax cold. We could all be a little more respectful of each other's beliefs. The two party system is inherently polarizing and the media has exasperated
the problem. I doubt if there was much more hate before the start of the civil war. I’m trying to be a little more respectful these days, not to compromise principles, but to remember we are part of the same human family. Maybe we could try toning down the rhetoric and respond civilly rather than contemptuously.
Is it any surprise Palin's popularity is dipping? That’s how most campaigns are these days; 50-50.
"I’m trying to be a little more respectful these days, not to compromise principles, but to remember we are part of the same human family. Maybe we could try toning down the rhetoric and respond civilly rather than contemptuously."
Well okay NP79, I will try harder to be more "civil" It is just that every time the likes of someone like Big Dan or Big Mike gets on here and slams the Democrats as being unAmerican, or unAlaskan, or when we are invited to leave if we don't love (right wing) America, you know that old "love it or leave it" thing, it kind of pisses some of us off.. You see, we belong here too and have always loved our nation and our state. If people on both sides wants a civil discourse then I would be down with that, but it doesn't seem to be the way we are heading.
imcold 10/30/2008, 9:45 a.m. Suggest removal Go Sarah! Believe the media hype if you want to but she still has done good for the state. Maybe those that think she is so bad would like to return your energy rebate checks.
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If she promised.... in writting under the watchful eyes of a half dozen or better witnesses (cant't be too careful with her honesty track record)... to step down from office if I gave the money back, I would do it in a heart beat. Even if that means only buying half a tank of heating fuel instead of a full one. I barely get by as it is but for a goverment free of her and her religious extreamism I'd pay the full dividend and energy bonus back.
I'd go for double or nothing girlfromalaska
Return Rebates? Thats not money from Sarah. That money belongs to all of us. We stole that land fair and square from the native Alaskans! She did nothing to set up the Alaska permanent fund, but under her administration, the fund LOST 12 billion $, as a direct result of her parties mismanagement of the economy. The Reagan trickle down effect is finally reaching all of us. Lost 401K's, pension funds, municipal investments, all gone, thanks to the reckless deregulation fostered upon an unsuspecting public, by the Ayn Rand fringe lunatics, the Chicago School of economics, Friedmanites and the whole lot of morons that preached "Free Market's"
Now that they have accomplished the biggest ripoff in history, they are trying to blame it again on the democratic congress, that was completely powerless to do anything about it, due to lack of filibuster-proof majority. As all the talking heads on Bloomberg say these days: You have not seen anything yet! The real collapse of our economy is just around the corner, and all those that caused it will skate away with billions looted from the low and middle class. Does anyone out there really think that scum like Angelo Mozillo, from countrywide will ever be made to repay any of the millions he stole?Not! He gave way too much money to all the politicos that enabled him.
imcold 10/30/2008, 9:45 a.m. Go Sarah! Believe the media hype if you want to but she still has done good for the state. Maybe those that think she is so bad would like to return your energy rebate checks.
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That money came from the state not out of Palins pockets or we wouldn't have gotten it. Maybe some of our votes WERE NOT FOR SALE!
Just as ridiculous-----did you donate yours to the McCain/Palin campaign? Don't be so mad that you can't take our 1200. checks back because we do not condone or support a hypocritical, unethical, Governor who has no integrity or honor.
OB will not feel animosity toward AK..he's gonna get 3 electoral votes from AK
My how the Republicans love to remind us about that 1200 dollars Sarah "gave" us! Sarah hated to give that money away you can be sure but she was smart enough to realize if she didn't it could bite her in the butt at the next election. I am so amazed how normally the GOP is hyper sensitive about socialism of any form, refuses to see that money as what it was, a socialist payout!
$1200 for a vote is expensive but seems to have worked.
Ok this is the first time I have ever posted on a news story so forgive me for being ... well inexperience! Hello Alaskans.... do you know who is running your state? For those of you who get it... here here... I appaud your intelligence. For those of you who think Sarah Palin has helped your state.... sure ya you bet ya! She has helped you all by making her own life better. Is that what we want from the people who run our government? Run their own agenda and see if they can pull the wool over everyone elses eyes. I am tired of working my ass off so my son has to borrow $15,000 for one year of college... by the way I am a single mother that that makes $30,000 a year. I am tired of seeing the price of gas go up but not come down then the price of oil does. I am tired of seeing the price of groceries go up but not come down then then the farmers are getting 1/3 of what their crops sold for last year. Wake up America!!!!! I am a middle class hard working American that is got getting anywhere and I have not for the last 8 years!
CNN was interviewing some voters supporting Obama (about 8:40am Thursday 10/31/2008)
One Obama voter said, "this would be the first time we will have someone in the White House with a different perspective*".
*[ A PERSPECTIVE with 100% control of the military, and enormous control of the: economic system, all the government's agencies, control of the media, control of a Freddie and Fanny Mac's montage loan policy, EVERYTHING even including Smokey the Bear]
What the Obama voter was talking about: black culture/attitudes values towards work and the welfare state VS. the historical cultural values that founded this country and have made us a world power.
For example: Welfare eligibility and payment amounts are set by administrative regulations promulgated by the White House down through the chain of command to the people ACORN registered to vote.
I wounder if people understand: we are voting to change what cultural values will be controlling the most powerful nation in the world with the military force to back it up!
Anyone rememberer the character reference made by Rev. Wright, "[Obama is just doing what a politician does best"! Rev. Wright has known him for years he married him, Baptized his kids and ate at his table.
All bets are off the day after the election! Who will Obama double cross --- You or Me or this Ayers guy we keep hearing about.
[The Weatherman were a terrorist group who killed quite a few people trying to over throw the Federal Government]
No wounder older voters don't trust him!..
Reply to 1AkFox
"The Weatherman were a terrorist group who killed quite a few people trying to over throw the Federal Government."
Just another blatant lie. The weathermen did not kill or injure a single person, except 2 of their own Rogues, that were killed during Bomb Making in the Village in New York. They were true patriots, that wanted to stop the murder of American Military Personel in SE Asia. (Various countries) Many of them heeded the warnings spoken by one of the USA's greatest Military Minds and President, Dwight Eisenhower, who warned us americans, of the Military Industrial complex. The weathermen were fighting for the Constitution of the USA and for rights of all citizens to be avble to protest and vote.
As for 9/11 being gods punishment for the Gays and the Abortionists: Rubbish! How long do you gentle people think, a nation can go around, dictating foreign policy and democracy to nations, while it tolerates the denial of the very rights to the Muslims and Christians that inhabit Palestine and Lebanon, Syria and Egypt, as well as Saudi Arabia.9/11 was nothing but a down payment on the payback owed this arrogant gunboat and B-2 bomber diplomacy driven nation of blood thirsty militarists, with nuclear submarines and Aircraft carriers all over the world, ready at a moments notice to pounce on innocent civilians, killing hundreds of thousands, to bring Shock and Awe.
smartkid, that was well said.. We are a nation of hypocrites who have been in everybody's face for decades with an astounding 700 military bases around the world and aircraft carriers, submarines etc everywhere. Our military is larger then almost all the other countries military combined.. It doesn't make us safe, it makes us a target for resentment. How long would we as Americans stand for foreign bases on our home turf, or navy ships off our coast? And yet we expect other countries to treat us differently. No wonder Americans when traveling abroad often pretend that they are from Canada...
Just a few more days Brothers and Sisters! Remember, we all are AMERICANS, even those that came from foreign lands South of Us, seeking to better themselves.I was born in Switzerland and educated there, but have been calling Alaska my home for over 30 years now, and I am somewhat saddened, that the people in this great state have suffered from Sarah Palins overexposure, that of her Family, her unfortunate Late in life child, as well as the white trashization of our state by Facebook Postings of the great inseminator, LEVI. Next Wednesday it will all be over, and Sarah will come back home. It is then, that we, the people of this great State, should ask for an accounting into the per-diem sleepovers at her house, and her dragging her Family along at State Expense and other incidents. The family was not invited in most instances, and she should re-imburse the State for questionable expenditures, close this chapter, that one may kindly ascribe to her not knowing better, and let her live out her term, so she can run for the US Senate, since she has Washington in the Blood now.And please stop bringing up the "Troopergate".The Trooper in question showed bad judgement, it was investigated, he was punished, (He Accepted his punishment and fully cooperated with the investigation, unlike the Palins), and the CASE IS NOW CLOSED! Please let her get on with the Governing of the State. That is what she was elected for, by many Alaskans. I am sure, there will be much more oversight of all her doing now, that so many irregularities have been uncovered.
palin4veep, I do not stalk!
I root for the man who walks the talk!
Biden brings joy to the young and the old,
While Sarah's name is turning to mold.
Your hero is someone who just cannot fly right,
For Biden is gold, but Palin just pyrite.
So embrace the man with the golden tan,
Who reaches out to you with his hand,
Who'll return America to its long-lost glories,
And that P-4-V is the truest of Stories!
Go, Joe!
B...b...BUT McCain is going to win.
Palins numbers would have been higher but there was a Communist Party convention at the AAAA Motel and, like dummies, the pollsters just start at the front of the phone book.
Really, McCain is going to win, I can feel it.
Sure her popularity is down because of numerous hit pieces run by the Associated Press as part of their campaign to elect Obama.
Remember all the toopergate coverage to make Sarah look bad? Day after day?
The News Miner fouled up and printed something favorable.
A second opinion!
Read all of it and note the part about the author.
Ref:
-http://newsminer.com/news/2008/oct/29/alaska-trooper-case-needs-reconsideration/?opinion
G.O.P
Grand old PIGGIES!
Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.
Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.
Please take 2 mins and 49 seconds out of your life to watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYEiwR2Kk...
cute akbearable you did a fantastic job describing the entire democrat senate
nice poem
Ayers, Wright, Pfleger and Khalidi = guilt by association?
McCain is Bush = guilt by association?
McCain just completely lost me, first debate: blah blah blah...our beloved Ronald Reagan...blah blah blah.
Third Debate: Opening line...I have some bad news: Our beloved Nancy Reagan is in the Hospital...blah blah blah.
Reagan, history will eventually show, was one of the least in control Presidents EVER! The collapse of the evil empire happened not because of him or Star Wars, but because Russia was broke. Their Model was faulty.
The Reagans combined, are the ones responsible for millions of Deaths from AIDS and related causes, because they felt that the Victims of that disease brought it on themselves, and therefore deserved it. Millions of children that never abused drugs or were Gay are suffering. because the policy esposed by the Reagans gave no money to AIDS Research or helping and educating people in third world countries.
Therefore, Bush and McCain are both culpable in this humanitarian disaster, by failing to help the victims of AIDS. McvCain is trying to paint himself as a big Reagan Supporter, (I was a foot soldier in the Reagan revolution, etc) Foot Soldiers generally don't ride around in armor plated Cadillac limos.
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