Black bear, three cubs killed near Parks Highway lodge
Originally published Wednesday, August 13, 2008 at 12:00 a.m.
Updated Wednesday, August 13, 2008 at 3:39 p.m.
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Stumble It!FAIRBANKS — A female black bear with three cubs was shot and killed at Rabideau’s Clear Sky Lodge on Monday when it approached some children playing near the bar and restaurant on the Parks Highway 80 miles south of Fairbanks.
A wildlife biologist with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game shot and killed the three cubs a few hours later because they were too young to survive on their own.
“We didn’t have any other options,” Fairbanks biologist Don Young said about killing the cubs.
Department spokeswoman Cathie Harms said the agency checked with zoos and other facilities to try and find a home for the cubs, but there were no takers.
“Black bears breed so well in captivity that any zoo or facility that has ever had them still has them,” Harms said. “There’s almost no demand for any black bears.”
Researchers at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, who sometimes take live bears for study purposes, didn’t need the bear, either, she said.
The family of bears had been hanging around the lodge at Mile 280 of the Parks Highway — halfway between Nenana and Healy — for the past few weeks. The sow became “increasingly more bold,” Young said.
“I heard from the lodge owners that the bear had tried to come through the front door of the lodge,” he said.
The bear made several visits to a Dumpster behind the lodge, despite efforts by workers at the lodge to keep the Dumpster emptied and cleaned, Young said.
The bear showed up Monday evening about 6 p.m. on an airstrip about 75 yards behind the lodge, and a bartender from the lodge shot it when it approached some children and dogs. The shooting was deemed legitimate by Young.
The woman who shot the bear said she didn’t want to kill the bear but she didn’t have any choice. There were children playing outside when the bear showed up, she said.
“We have neighbors who live around here and they have kids and dogs outside,” said the woman, who didn’t want to be identified. “As soon as the bear made a move in that direction, I decided it was too close. We don’t want a mauling around here.”
The bear was getting more aggressive because it was trying to find food for its cubs, the woman said.
The woman shot the bear with a .270-caliber rifle and killed it with one shot, Young said.
“She made a good shot,” Young said of the woman who shot it. “She asked me if I thought the bear had suffered and I would say no, it didn’t.”
The cubs were still with the dead sow when Young showed up about 9 p.m.
They ran off when Young approached, and he ended up shooting them with a 12-gauge shotgun from about 50 yards away.
The sow was an adult weighing what Young estimated to be 130 to 140 pounds, which he said is about average for an Interior black bear.
It was the first defense of life and property shooting of a bear this summer in the borough following a rash of DLP shootings of grizzly bears around Fairbanks last year. A dozen problem grizzly bears were shot in the borough last summer, a record number of DLP shootings.
Contact staff writer Tim Mowry at 459-7587.
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AHHH, the Clear Sky Lodge, brings back fond memories. Spent many of hours there, years ago.
"....The sow became “increasingly more bold,” Young said....."
At some point, he's going to retire. Then _maybe_ F&G will hire someone that's actually a scientist.
I would say biologist counts as scientist, especially at F&G
Im suprised F&G didnt shoot the cubs from a helicopter...
Not the kind of job any one wants to do- Thank You Mr. Young. There is science and then there is practicality in our human world. I am glad to live in a place where practicality still lives. It is a shame that it went on as long as it did. The bartender lady shouldn't have had to make that shot in a case where the bears were so obviously going to from pests to hazards. A way bigger thank you to her.
Alaska's "officials" have become trigger happy. More and more and more and more and more this is happening every other day. TRAP THEM AND MOVE THEM TO THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE.
Don't think the bartender was an "Alaskan official" Good call on her part.
eaglerock00 they try moving bears all the time with the bear almost beating the helicopter back to where they started. Plus you start dropping them into another bears territory it causes problems
akgrl: That's my point.
I do believe the Clear sky Lodge is in the middle of nowhere. Having lived in the area myself I would say most residents accept that fact and often try to find other resolutions to wild animals like that bear. Which is why the bartender was concerned about the animal's level of suffering.
Well its sad to see that happen, I had the same trouble last night, with a mother black bear and two cubs. it wen't down when I was watching the olimpics last night, after phillis won, the door moved just a little, I didn't think nothing of it. there was just me and my one year old baby girl, and I thought it was her making the noise she was about 3 feet way from the door, then the door realy moved, as if some one tryed pushing there way in to the house, so i jumped up and looked out the window, there was 3 black bears two on the porch and one on the side of the porch, so I grabed my little girl of the floor and put her on my bed the other side of the house, grabed my 7MM rifle, and stared banging on my front window and yeahing at the bears to "get out of here" for about a full minute i banged on the window, it didn't phase them at all, so I opened the door and just one of the bears started runing the other two stayed, the mother started to stand up she was about 6 to 10 feet way from me, so I shot her, she droped, the cub started runging up a tree right next to my house it got about 5 feet up, and I droped him also, it was sad but what could I do? I mean what if she pushed the door open, my little girl was right next to the door, I like bears but when they start pushing on your door, thats as far as the bears is go to go, by the way the cubs were over a year old just a little smaller then the mother, the other cub has a long road ahead of it.
Too many folks up here like to use any excuse to shoot anything that move with 4 legs. I wasnt there so cant say whether the shooting was appropriate or not. Its time to remember lady's and gentleman, we live in Alaska and the wildlife is why many of us are here. I hear of way too many very suspect bear deaths and wolf deaths for that matter. Lets knock it off before we have nothing left for the future to enjoy!! (and to hunt)
Well its sad to see that happen, I had the same trouble last night, with a mother black bear and two cubs. it wen't down when I was watching the olimpics last night, after phillis won, the door moved just a little, I didn't think nothing of it. there was just me and my one year old baby girl, and I thought it was her making the noise she was about 3 feet way from the door, then the door realy moved, as if some one tryed pushing there way in to the house, so i jumped up and looked out the window, there was 3 black bears two on the porch and one on the side of the porch, so I grabed my little girl of the floor and put her on my bed the other side of the house, grabed my 7MM rifle, and stared banging on my front window and yeahing at the bears to "get out of here" for about a full minute i banged on the window, it didn't phase them at all, so I opened the door and just one of the bears started runing the other two stayed, the mother started to stand up she was about 6 to 10 feet way from me, so I shot her, she droped, the cub started runing up a tree right next to my house it got about 5 feet up, and I droped him also, it was sad but what could I do? I mean what if she pushed the door open, my little girl was right next to the door, I like bears but when they start pushing on your door, thats as far as the bears is go to go, by the way the cubs were over a year old just a little smaller then the mother, the other cub has a long road ahead of it.
sosorry: You're under the mistaken impression that you are somehow more important than a bear. I don't believe that to be true.
Yes, I know you don't agree. You grunt and say "I got thumbs and a truck and a gun. And a family!" It doesn't matter. You look at things on a micro, egocentric scale. "How does this effect _ME_?" I think that's selfish. Rather, why not ask the question: "How does this action effect the universe at large?"
*sigh* That's asking too much.
The simple truth is this: Don Young is known, all over the state, for being a trigger happy power monger. Don't confuse the issues of practicality and science, he's of the same school of thought that has left the midwest with huge herds of bison. "Shoot one more. There's plenty of them!" Until there's only 3 left. Then what? New Jersey.
Don Young is not a scientist. Fear is not a scientific core value.
KenWoods,
What is your problem with Don Young? I absolutely disagree with you, I've never heard anyone call him a "trigger happy power monger". In my opinion, he is one of the best biologists over at F&G.
The public called him to help out with a wildlife problem, it is his job to respond. What would you suggest? Should he have taken his phone off of the hook and stayed at home with his head under his pillow?
NO!! He went to the scene, he then tried to find a home for the cubs, which was not possible, so he shot them so that they wouldn't starve. As ugly as it is, a bullet is more humane than starvation.
KenWoods,
Another point:
The most likely reason those bears were unafraid of people is because they had learned that people=food, either from the lodge or somewhere else. This unfortunate and common occurance is caused by humans.
Having said that, the bears were a problem. So, let's say that the bar tender did not shoot the sow and one of the kids got mauled. Once the story of a bear mauling hit the news, how many innocent bears do you think would get shot by people who were now bear paranoid?
i am definately more important than a bear. i think sosorry is more important than a bear. human childrens safety and well being are way far more important than than a sow and her cubs. and i say, good job to carlo for protecting his or her young one. good job to the lady and clear sky who has such good aim. it's too bad we can't somehow convey to these creatures what a rifle is and what they can do.
OK. You're all right. I'm wrong. About everything.
Burke, You an absolute idiot. What do you know about bear danger??? Chase the children inside so they could get mauled. You weren't there and the families of those children are blessed that she was responsible enough to make a decision to save their lives instead of waiting for disaster to strike. This lady was not trigger happy she was responsible. Like it or not guns are legal for both men and women. You are obviously delusional in your concept of what is rational and irrational.
Burke--I have to agree with midnightsundreamer. You are an idiot. What makes you think that this bear was not a threat period. She had cubs with her and any Momma will be protective of her young. You never know what would have provocted her to attack, maybe even the children moving into the bar. The woman did the right thing and good for her, because it would be hard for me to shot a bear with babies knowing that they would die too.
Thank god as a woman I own a gun and will use it in defense of my life and safety if so necessary. I have never had to, yet I am competent enough to do so. Trigger happy I am not.
I wonder how many residents in the general area of Clear Sky Lodge have bear baits within a mile of their homes, or for that matter within a mile of Clear Sky Lodge.
I am all for protecting life and property. I am a hunter and a sportsman. But I have questions like the one above.
Another question would be why the bartender thought it best to go get her .270 when the bear got "too close" to the kids instead of moving the kids into the house first.
Overall, I agree with dispatching the bears because they obviously showed no fear of humans and would be an issue later. But, like I said, I have questions.
BenEfits,
It sounds like the children were at a distance and calling them to come in because of a group of bears could have created a panic. Who knows if they would have started running and set off a protective momma bear. This may have worked, but the odds of the children being injured or killed seems to me higher than the actions this brave bartender chose. I am sure it was quicker to grab her equalizer (.270) than try to round up playing children who most likely would have been chased. Don't you know you are not supposed to run away from a bear or make any sudden movements if possible. Perhaps you would prefer the children to play dead..or perhaps you would prefer to take a chance with someone else's children that they would now be actually dead. I love animals, but sometimes we must protect ourselves. It is a tragedy about the cubs, but they could not have made it on their own, and it seems they did try to place them in homes before they had to take the sad action to kill them.
Sow with cubs and armed woman with children, that's no place for guys.
KW- Your last comment, you're on track, it's the most logical thing you've said all week...
BenEFits
The article does not say that the woman ran home to get her gun, leaving the children unattended. All of the details are not included in most news stories for sake of brevity. I would bet that the kids were moved out of the area and the woman came back and shot the bear because she had decided that it was no longer safe to have in the vicinity after she watched it obviously approaching the children.
I completely agree with your bear baiting point, I hadn't thought of that. I'm not a big fan of bear baiting and have always wondered how many bears learn about "human trash smells" from bear baiting stations. Good point.
I had to do what I had to do, with slight hesation, i'm just glade my other two little girls wernt playing out side when the mother bear and 2 cubs showed up, thank god they were in town with mom.
oops "provoked"
midnightsummerdreamer: I would actually prefer you read the article.
This is actually moot because the bear had been around for weeks and should have been taken care of a long time ago. But I am happy to school people who can't look at facts for themselves.
"The family of bears had been hanging around the lodge at Mile 280 of the Parks Highway."
But Kids were out playing in yards anyway when there were bears in the area.
"The bear made several visits to a Dumpster behind the lodge."
So it wasn't necessarily a surprise when the bear showed up.
"The bear showed up Monday evening about 6 p.m. on an airstrip about 75 yards behind the lodge, and a bartender from the lodge shot it when it approached some children and dogs."
So they saw the bear from a safe distance, but decided to shoot it, keep in mind we now have to get a gun, only when it approached the kids. We didn't remove the kids or call their parents when we first saw the bear because . . .?
“As soon as the bear made a move in that direction, I decided it was too close. We don’t want a mauling around here.”
So she watched the bears and the children and when the bears got "too close" she decided it was time to shoot. The kids can watch the bear until it approaches? Notice she didn't say, I saw the bears at a distance from the kids and was afraid that any movement would cause them to attack the kids. She decided to shoot when the bears got too close to kids nobody took out of the area.
Let's look at facts (per the DNM) before we hang any medals on her neck. Somebody should have taken care of the bear issue a few weeks ago. I have another question . . . where were the parents of these kids?
Mike-- Good point!
2 mamma's w/ babies they feel the need to protect
and instinct will kick in EVERY time!
You're right! No self respecting male would come close!
HAHAHAHA!
Peace BAAAA
"Too many folks up here like to use any excuse to shoot anything that move with 4 legs."
For goodness sakes - what a total insult to most Interior residents! Where does this mentality come from? If you have such disdain for your neighbors, why stay?
You gotta be kidding me!!
So the arguement here is leave the kids alone, leave the bear alone and let nature take it's course? Yea, Don Young is trigger happy, those bears should have been left to starve to death, that's way better. For all of you who are on the same level in nature with bears, try working with Don Young. Give him your address and the next time this happens he can tranquilize the bears and deliver them to your yard for your viewing pleasure. I'm sure your kids would love to play with them they are just so cute and fluffy.
Read the book, Alaska Bear Tales if you want to understand just how dangerous a bear is. If it's closer than 20 feet to a human, goodbye bear.
Ken, many Americans have gave everything over the years so that you can exercise your constitutional right to freedom of speech, and I would defend your right also. It would be nice, however, if you would use that right for something other than the hate-filled, slanderous crap that you throw around. Don Young is a good man who takes his job seriously and does it with pride. I do, however, think you are right about one thing...some people (you) are most definitely NOT more important than a bear. Quit posting, you embarrass yourself.
The parents of the children were probably very close by. There are a number of rental cabins within yards of the clear sky lodge. Having gone to school in Anderson, which is just a few miles from the lodge, we were all as very young children educated in bear safety. I agree with some of the above comments on bear baiting, however, I didn't know anyone personally in that area that used that method. Mostly it is unnecessary, the bears in the area are prolific, not very hard to track down. The bartender and many other residents had probably contacted fish and game numerous times to no avail. People in the area are used to having to fend for themselves, which is why that woman had the gun available in the first place. Tranquilizing the cubs would not have been an option as they most likely would have starved to death. I think that covers most of the above comments, if somewhat incoherently.
BenEFits,
Boy, from the sound of it you must of been there to be so judgemental of the situation.. You are sitting behind your computer judging a split second decision to let the bear continue with his day or approach a group of children. Sure they should have (and maybe did) report the bears to DFG but then you would probably complain that they could have redirected the overly friendly bears to a less dangerous area. I was not there. I do not have all of the facts, but your pompous assumption that you know more than everyone is insulting. I will always err on the side of saving a life if it comes to killing an animal. I am a huge animal lover, but children are to be protected. We do not live in the wild and leave our children to fend for themselves. Once you have all the facts, be sure to make another better thought out post.
Tell me woodman, how did silly old you get so close to that bear. I am all for self defense of life and limb and wife and family. Just in case you havent noticed there have been an awful lot of bear killings this year. I am not convinced that they were all needed is all!!
LJ_CARLO--
Thank you for watching those kiddos.
Good shot & God bless you!
Peace
actually millerpa if you had bothered to read the article you would notice there were a lot of bear shootings LAST year. It was the FIRST DOL shooting this year.
Workin_mom says,"This unfortunate and common occurance is caused by humans.Having said that, the bears were a problem."
I love how you put, "caused by humans", and then, "problem bears," in your post.
NEVER ceases to amaze me!
nice shot, good job by the woman, too bad we couldn't find homes for the cubs, everyone did what should have been done
JT what amazes you? The bears learned that humans=food. That is a human caused problem. It is common and very unfortunate. Once bears learn that, it cannot be unlearned because those amazing creatures are smart and have a memory.
I think anyone who leaves garbage out so bears can get it should receive a huge fine.
BUT, it does not change the fact that a food conditioned bear is dangerous to humans and therefore a problem.
What amazes you? Simple logic?
no, but logic is different. Problem people cause bear problems. BTW, anyone know if all the garbage in the area was secure? Did anyone look? Did anyone get fined?
midsummer:
I wasn't there. I read the article. Try it. I quoted the article and got all of my conclusions from it. I haven't added any suppositions, just asked questions. A dose of facts makes this a lot clearer. I am sorry you find it insulting that your argument got washed down the drain. My point is that it doesn't sound like a split second judgement.
The bear was spotted on the airstrip and wasn't shot until it moved towards the kids. Think about this. Why weren't these people watching the bears from the inside of their homes as soon as the bear appeared?
I live in town. This spring a cow and calf moose wandered into our back yard where I was working with my son. We went in the house. I didn't leave my son there until the moose approached and then shoot it. This bear was spotted 75 yards away, observed, then shot when it approached observing children and that is according to the bartender. Read the article.
JT, did you read the article?
It says
"The bear made several visits to a Dumpster behind the lodge, despite efforts by workers at the lodge to keep the Dumpster emptied and cleaned, Young said."
So, it sounds like the NM is suggesting that ADF&G looked at the situation and decided that the lodge was not being negligent.
I think the AK State Troopers need to be more pro-active and hand out tickets. I see garbage out all of the time. ADF&G just gets called when there is already a wildlife "problem". We need preventative measures and information doesn't work for everyone, so big fines might change some human behavior and prevent some of these types of problems.
Nicole: You are wrong. There have been about 23 bear killings this year due to ignorance and bliss.
What kind of dumpsters are these? Are they bear proof? Where does the restaurant dispose of their grease every night? What types of trash cans are available to the public in the vicinity?
First kill all the wolves. Then start kill-en them Bears.
There is no point in having a dumpster if you have to constantly keep it clean every day (which in this article and your quote implies, but I doubt it to be true). Point in having a dumpster is so you have the ability to dump garbage in them for several days before pick up. Allowing your restaurant garbage cans to be emptied every night. You can clean out a dumpster every night but if it isn't bear proof, grease and other food remains will always attract bears. All restaurants should be mandated to have bear proof dumpsters AND grease storage boxes inside the restaurant with a special truck that comes out to pick it up at the end of the week.
JT, first, I never said "problem bears" as you claim I did. When you put quotes around words it implies that you are actually quoting the person. I said "the bears were a problem" and that is true, food conditioned bears are dangerous..........yes, it is caused by humans, but it is still a problem.
Second, I have no idea what kind of dumpster they have, why don't you drive out there and find out. Yes, garbage should be secured. No one would argue that. BUT, it is not ADF&Gs responsibility to police people's garbage. ADF&G employees are biologists. Call the local troopers and ask them to investigate the garbage situation at the lodge and in the vicinity. Then, if someone gets a fine, it might change some human behaviors.
workin_mom: You don't know much about F&G, do you.
I think BenEfits pretty much summed it up.
Okay, so was the meat salvaged? Mmmmmm....bear stew. Could help out a few ppl.
I was speaking of the borough that the clear sky lodge resides in, which happens to be the Denali Borough not the Fairbanks North Star Borough. FNSB being a more highly populated borough would have more shootings, at least that would be my supposition. Denali Borough having far more bears and land and many fewer people has had ONE defense of life shooting. I would guess many more bears will be shot in the area. I know I will be gunning for one, tag is already in my wallet.
To you commenters wondering "where those kids' parents were"--assuming the children presumed to be in danger when this mother bear was shot were not children who may have been patrons of the lodge at the time--those kids' parents had been notified that the bears had been in the vicinity and were taking all necessary precautions long before this incident. One was not allowing the children to be further than about 30 feet of their front door unless accompanied by a parent from the time they learned the bears had been coming around. They had also been instructed to go indoors if they saw the bears, or heard they had returned. Furthermore, that evening, upon getting word that the bear and cubs had returned and were behind the lodge, those kids were corralled by their parents. The children were never in any perceived or known danger, since the bears were never within their or their parents' line of sight during the entire incident.
Rest assured that I can be trusted as a source, because I'm one of the parents. Perhaps you who are quick to question others' parenting might remember this when stories in which children are mentioned are reported in the future.
It will be a sad day when the Ken Woods rule the roost. I look at them with the same cynical eyes as I do a black bear heading for a dumpster. IN fact I have one helluva a lot more respect for that black bear. Let him holler about its the black bears world and we are just invaders eventually he will figure it out or not it doesn't matter as long as all of the rest of us keep our head screwed on straight and do what is right in our world. Protect the right to take care of our own because Mr. Woods sure as hell wont.
Don Young does a good job at what he does. I do think he cares about wildlife.
I will kill all the bears I can as it adds to the moose population. Predators compete with me and I will do my best to remove as many as possible.
Pat
Show Me,
It sounds like you had things under control out there. Your parenting was never being judged, not by me anyway. The story left gaps and I was curious. You said:
"Furthermore, that evening, upon getting word that the bear and cubs had returned and were behind the lodge, those kids were corralled by their parents. The children were never in any perceived or known danger, since the bears were never within their or their parents' line of sight during the entire incident."
The story quoted the bartender:
The woman who shot the bear said she didn’t want to kill the bear but she didn’t have any choice. There were children playing outside when the bear showed up, she said.
“We have neighbors who live around here and they have kids and dogs outside,” said the woman, who didn’t want to be identified. “As soon as the bear made a move in that direction, I decided it was too close. We don’t want a mauling around here.”
So how could the bear approach children who had been "corraled"? Why were these bears killed again?
I have lived here all my forty years and i find it sad that i have never watched bears in the wild i have done some fishing trips here and there nothing major been grouse hunting many times all around moose hunting a few times i never see bears hell even when they were up on farmers loop i missed them i know this was off topic but dang it i want to see some bears before they are all killed not aying it wasnt right to save the kids if they were in danger i just want to see some bears. I guess i will have to travel to the mcneal river and watch them
Tony08 - I was just thinking the same thing, it's been how many years since I have seen a bear. Everyone is seeing or having an encounter with them. I would love to see another bear or two - from a distant.
Tony and Sunshine, you should get out more :) I see bears almost every year and many times multiple sightings. Although I spend many days out of the year in remote locations. I do not think you need worry about all the bears being killed. Especially black bears.
Pat
well I shot two bears on tuseday night, mom and cub, And the other cub showed up last night, at my front door again, my little 5 year old girl keeps locking the door right behind me after I walk in, keeps saying I don't want u to die dad, but yeah, I looked out the window and there the cub was right in the middle of the porch, grabed my gun again, open the door slowly and before I new it he was standing right in front of me about 2-3feet way from me, door was cracked about 7"in lefted my gun with one hand and pulled the trigger, I missed, he was just to close, so he jumped of the porch and ran away, I think he will be back again, it has no wear to go, no mom, no sibling to play with, standinbg up he was about 10" shorter then me and im 5,9
sad to say but i'm going to have to put him down, no alternative, being in a small town in the bush.
I live near the Clear Sky Lodge and know who shot that bear. Those bears came through my place a few miles away on Sunday the 27th of Aug. The sow was limping as if injured that day but from what I gather was not limping anymore when it got to the area of the Clear Sky Lodge. Those bears kept returning to the lodge, I am sure due to the wonderful smell of char grilled steaks that would make any animal human or bear hungry. The owners and the workers took many extra precautions to try and get the bears to leave including making daily runs to the dump, cleaning the dumpster and calling Fish and Game and the state troopers. It was hoped they would all be moved. There was about a week in which some plan could have been made.
But somewhere and somehow that bear had gotten into someones garbage and thus associated humans with food. That is what killed that sow, the bartender just delivered the final blow. But the bear was doomed the first bit of garbage it got from wherever it got it.
That said, as far as I know nobody sets out bear bait in this area. We all try very hard to take special care not to attract bears by burning all our trash, wash out empty food cans before tossing them in bear proof containers and keeping our land free of human food stuff. Only fools would set out bear bait in an area where we live and I really don't think anyone around here does it. We have a large population of black bears and even more grizzly than most areas of the state.
I believe the woman did what she thought was the right thing to do and none of us who were not present at the time should judge her. Nor should folks use a jump to conclusion mat to assume folks who live here are so stupid as to set out bear bait. If we wanted to get a bear all we have to do is go for a 4 wheeler ride or two and find one. No need for bait. LOL
~Anne
pmcgraw - LOL---I get out quite a bit actually. Probably don't see them bears because I'm telling myself----please don't let me cross their paths -- same with moose -- however did see a moose come flying up along side of road like a bucking horse...interesting to say the least -- sure something was after it and I didn't hang around to see...:) a sight though -- darn no camera either
I love the irony here. Ken stating that someone is "mistaken" for assuming that they are more important than a bear. When, from all of his posts, it is impossible not to get the impression that he thinks he is superior to every creature on this planet.
I do get out pmcgraw but i just never see a bear i have come across many many moose fox but for some reason i have never seen a bear heck i even walked right through a bear baiting station way the heck down old murphy dome road didnt realize it until i had found all the rabbitt bones scattered and seen the barrel i guess i was to busy looking for grouse maybe that could be part of the problem i need to look more closely but dangit i want to see a few bears oh well maybe next time i am out in the woods i will see one
Oh so much about Nothing. Survival is the key. If those bears woulda gotten some of those kids then those of you that think that a bear is equal to a human woulda been happy I suppose. Belly up to the Bar boys and buy the bartender some drinks. She deserves it. I just tipped a Miller Lite for her.
Anne, well stated. I am happy to hear that the local residents are so responsible with their garbage, although not surprised, because if they weren't, there would be more problems. I totally agree, whoever let those bears get into food is at fault, and unfortunately that woman at the lodge was forced to do the dirty work.
JT, I would bet I know far more about F&G than you do!! You sound like you just want to argue and find fault. Why don't you contact the troopers to voice your concerns over how this was handled or better yet, go to a board of game meeting so that you could learn what the responsiblites of the F&G staff really is.
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