Oil execs: A gas line will be built
Published Thursday, April 17, 2008
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A BP executive told a Fairbanks audience Wednesday that his company and ConocoPhillips will prepare to build a natural gas pipeline whether or not Alaska officials issue a construction license to a different company, TransCanada.
Angus Walker, a senior vice president for gas at BP Exploration (Alaska) Inc., acknowledged the two companies’ joint Denali project was started outside the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act, a law designed to spark construction of a long-discussed pipeline.
The state in January deemed TransCanada’s plan the sole effort eligible for incentives under the law. The Alaska Legislature is scheduled to consider the plan this summer.
“If a license is awarded to TransCanada, or anybody else, we will continue, and if it’s not awarded to TransCanada or anybody else we will continue,” Walker told an audience assembled by the industry group The Alliance.
Walker and Brian Wenzel, a vice president for ConocoPhillips, were responding to an audience member’s question of how things might shake out if multiple plans for a pipeline move forward at once.
BP and ConocoPhillips announced last week they plan to spend $600 million to reach the point of soliciting natural gas shippers by way of an open season.
State Rep. Jay Ramras, R-Fairbanks, who attended Wednesday’s presentation, said Walker’s statement — along with what he senses is public support for Denali — strengthens his belief that Gov. Sarah Palin should stall the AGIA process in case BP, ConocoPhillips and TransCanada want to team up.
“Let government get out of the way and let the private sector work the way it’s supposed to,” Ramras said.
The companies are proposing to build a line to Alberta, Canada, to connect with existing pipeline systems and feed U.S. demand for gas. Walker and Wenzel said the United States’ Midwest region represents the best large-scale marketplace for Alaska’s gas — from Alberta, they could extend a pipeline directly to the Chicago area if needed.
Wenzel said the line, which would include off-take taps in Fairbanks and elsewhere to feed Alaska communities, makes more sense than the in-state, North Slope-to-Valdez option supported by some.
“The highest value that we as Alaskans can get for this gas is to take it down into North American U.S. markets. By getting the highest value there, we end up with the highest value back in Alaska (even) after you take out the transportation costs,” he said.
Wenzel said it’s too early to know whether another proposed arctic gas project, the Mackenzie Valley Pipeline in Canada, can be considered a competitor. He acknowledged the Canadian project has a head-start but suggested the lead could actually help by staggering the supply of labor and high-grade steel available for construction.
“ConocoPhillips is taking the approach that we just need to move the Alaska pipeline project ahead as fast as we can ... to the extent that (if) they get delayed, we’ll just keep charging ahead,” he said.
Walker and Wenzel also fielded a question about whether the companies could be looking to deliver gas directly to buyers in the Alberta area. Wenzel said following the presentation that Alberta exports more gas than it uses and that the companies think it will still be a net-exporter when a line gets built.
Wenzel also indicated that while his company had previously proposed basing a construction headquarters in Fairbanks, the two companies would re-calibrate as part of the joint venture.
The proposed pipeline would be the largest private-sector construction project ever in North America. Walker estimated it would take about five million or six million tons of high-grade steel, which he said represents 30 percent of the world’s supply, and more than three years to build.
“It’s a project that in many ways will create its own weather,” he said.
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“It’s a project that in many ways will create its own weather,” he said.
............YEAH, TELL THAT TO AL GORE.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/...
"Walker estimated it would take about five million or six million tons of high-grade steel, which he said represents 30 percent of the world’s supply, and more than three years to build."
............THIS IS WHY IT WILL CREATE IT'S OWN WEATHER
[maybe they should refloat the two aircraft carriers they scuttled in the past 8 years... the Navy wants 80% of the oil in Alaska, but they can't seem to donate any steel]
I'll bet $100 Abramovich will have a train tunnel built from Chukotka to Nome [or, a gas tunnel built from Wrangel Island to Chukotka] before first-gas comes to Fairbanks in that big gold-plated-steel-pipeline.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/conf-ic...
http://www.google.com/search?q=abramovic...
BP&CP plan to make the gasline a buried steel corrosion-prone gasline [tons&tons of trenching]
PSSSST!!!!.... don't tell anybody, but a nanofiber reinforced PE100 lined nanocrete gas-tunnel with aramid tri-axial composite flex joints at known geofaults will be a heck of a lot less expensive and faster to build, plus the the gold and emeralds they find along the way might pay for some of the damage they've already done to Alaska]
Rich boys can't dance, and they can't pass gas worth a damn either.
Boom or Bust, either way Fairbanks will be ground into dust.
....flash/rumble
Something makes my skin crawl about this: timing.
Big Oil jumps in and agrees to build one now, exclusively to circumvent the AGIA process. They know that if they fail to circumvent AGIA, that they lose their power and control.
Everyone seems to be applauding this announcement. I am still holding my breath that this is a power play and that perhaps they just want their control back that AGIA took away from them.
As BP and CP states "we will PREPARE to build a natural gas pipeline"
Interpretation:
The word Prepare, in this statement has a hidden message, it's telling us that the big oil companies are not committed to actually building a gas line but are only committed to preparing to build one... After the prepare to build it they can prepare NOT to build it.
Interpretation:
As soon as he could pipe in Sen. Ramras stated the governor should stall AGIA in order to allow the pipeline to be built without government interference.
This statement means that Sen Ramras is in the pocket of big oil.
What will happen is that BP and CP will hold a open season for the gas. Then what will happen is that these guys will pressure any potential buyers to stay away so there will be the appearence the gas line isnt profitable enough to be built.
The oil companies and for that matter Sen Ramras are not our friend.
If you remember the oil companies pressured Mid-america, and others not to make a bid through AGIA to build the gas line.
The plan, with the help of Ramras, is to stall AGIA, have a open season which fails, then sadly holding a press conference, with there new CEO of Alaska operations Mr. Ramras, outlining the failure of the open season and the obstacles that now prevent the building of a pipeline.
Gov. Palin and Com. Erwin dont stall AGIA, as the article stated they will build it despite AGIA, great let them continue. If Transcanada is awarded the permit they then can incorporate other energy companies the opportunity to invest in the line. If BP and CP are serious, their involvement and seriousness to get a line built will be known at that time.
Questions New-Miner reporter Christopher Eshleman should have asked the multinational corporations he interviewed for this story:
1. Alaska, particularly within the Interior has an energy crisis. Why should Interior residents wait ten, or more, years for natural gas?
2. Alaska voters have mandated an All Alaska Gasline form the North Slope to Valdez. Why should the wishes of Alaska voters be ignored?
3. Explain the many lies expressed over the decades from the multinational corporations about their intent to build a gas line.
Of Ramras, when he said the governor should stall AGIA- is Ramras suggesting that the governor ignore the timelines found within the AGIA law?
Further, why has Ramras forgotten or ignored the fact that the AGIA process has numerous "must haves" to protect Alaskans from the kind of bait and switch nonsense we are seeing now from BP and ConocoPhillips? Why ignore the fact that these same multinational corporations refused to participate within AGIA and worked to sabotage the process?
Another good questions for ConocoPhillips would have been- if the oil companies simply sell the gas to themselves for use in extracting oil form Canada's tar sands- how in the world does that result in the highest net back to Alaska? Why should Alaska's gas be sold for the lowest possible price?
We need real reporting- not propaganda puff pieces for large multinationals who advertise in the News-Miner.
Come on Chris- I know you can do better.
I can only note Wenzel did a dance around Alberta being the ultimate goal for the majority of our gas, referring to that province being an exporter into the future.
That is B.S. and why he equivocated in his answer.
They know Alberta is running out of gas, all you have to do is read the Canadian papers.
They are pushing for our gas to boil out the Tar Sands as the main component with oil at $115 per barrel and have yet to even bring up the mess being made in our quest for oil at any cost.
Most of the news media is acquiescent in this man-made furor as well.
They are promoting and counting on our collective fear and comfort zone being violated to the point where we are willing to give up rational discourse and planning for our non-renewable resources.
This is nothing but a feeding frenzy.
So good to hear Ramras and his personal faith in the private sector as being the solution,
Yup, trust the private sector to look after Alaska and her people's best interests.
The list has grown long and tiresome with the private sector having driven this country and others into the toilet with their NAFTA's, GATT's et al destroying our currency and economy and then being first and last in line for bailouts.
No Jay, that old Bob Dylan line comes to mind: "You just want to be on the side that's winning"
Ultimately these multi-national (allegiance to no nation) companies and the oil companies in particular, have become the de facto government of all the world as they market their companies' financial/political intentions through venal politicians such as yourself.
BTW Jay, you seem to have stepped up your television assault on Alaska, just what have you got up your sleeve?
Kind of looks like a petroleum leak staining your cuff links.
AGIA isn't perfect but it not only is giving Big Oil a hotspur, but has given us breathing room as well.
Hey Ramras, you say “Let government get out of the way and let the private sector work the way it’s supposed to,”. If we do that how much in royalties do you think the state will get for the gas? Once they have beaten back the competition how much will we have to give up in order to get them to actually follow through this time? It seems to me that government HAS BEEN OUT OF THE WAY, either through fear tactics or bought off legislators and governors for the past quarter century and yet we still don't have a gasline to date. If government stays out of the picture like you suggest the oil companies will walk all over us and take whatever they want, and the only ones other then themselves who will come out ahead will be the newspapers charging for those full page fear ads. The message in those ads will be the same. How expensive it is to do business here in Alaska and how cheap it is to do it in some foreign land. Never mind Alaska could legally never nationalize the slope and kick them out like they have done many times in other countries. Like they are poised to do right now in Russia.
Conoco has insider information on what is happening in AGIA and they know that they are about to loose out on billions of dollars. If AGIA was a failure they would have waited until after the public announcement and 'saved the day' for Alaska. In this case timing is everything, this is a last ditch attempt to garner public support and I'm not buying it. I was a little skeptical about what was going to come out of AGIA. but this makes me much more confident that Tom Irwin and the DNR are going to get it right for Alaska.
Seems to me that the only reason that BP and Conoco finally want to build this thing is that someone is about to beat them to it. If we stall AGIA to allow them to do it, that incentive goes away and we're left with what we have for the last 30 years. I don't really care who builds the pipe, but I still doubt that BP and Conoco will do it if we just leave them to it.
This legislator couldn't address the energy crisis for the citizens this year despite outcry from citizens, who in their right mind would believe this legislator would listen to the people regarding a pipe line. Lets get real Anchorage and Matsu will determine what happens in the legislator, the Fairbank's delegation has very little power any longer. Just take a look at the budget and who got what.
So what are we going to do?
Seriously, what can we do besides just call or write the legislators which seems to do little to no good?
I think, for one thing, we should all make a big stink to hold the special session in Fairbanks this time. I really do. These guys are way to sequestered in Juneau. This would give the majority of people--and a main hub for interior bush-- direct access to the goings on.
Is anyone with me on this? A lone voice to change the location does no good. You all know numbers are what's needed.
Jay Ramras is not the only one in the pocket. I just heard on APRN a statement from Coghill saying pretty much the same thing. Don't forget the chairs of Finance--Stedman et al.
Read under blogs Stefan Milkowski's "Surprise Announcement" or something, wherein he describes Stedman, Huggins, CP's Wenzel, coming out of Lyda Green's office.
And the rumors... Lyda is so jealous of Sarah. She would like nothing more than to stick it to her, although I certainly don't think that is her main intention here. It's money. And future employment. As always: FOLLOW THE MONEY!!
Mainly, what should we do--and quickly?
"Seems to me that the only reason that BP and Conoco finally want to build this thing is that someone is about to beat them to it". Good point, robb. Russia and China already are staking their flags on the melting Arctic!
Had "America" (1996) then listened to or even had a clue about the fragile energy supply/demand of "our" little USA utopia world, the pipeline woulda been already built. DUH The rest of the world is probably looking at this scenario of a rush and "get-her-down PCV AGIA pipeline with the same skeptisism.
I suspect a routing to Alberta, Canada helps deliver the product more efficiently to the maze network of subterttainian pipe, which already exists via Canada to USA. The pipeline maze was clearly outlined in a map displayed on CNN for all the world terrorists to view back during Katrina panic.
Look, take US steel, coupled with Alaska trained pipeline specialist techs, reprented by Alaska Unions and build it.
What we should do:
1. Follow the law: AGIA is law.
2. Back up Distant Thunder to present the PE100 flex-pipe alternative to TransCanada.
3. Support the Alaska Gas Line Port Authority: http://www.mygasline.com/
4. Talk to anyone who will listen and keep writing!
Incidentally, the news is out about "This industry isn't working". That forementioned quote from Mike Copper, Consumer Adevocate workingwith FAA, as regards the airlines.
See, when you take a billion dollar jet, fill it with premium jet fuel and sell tickets for cheap or free, the airline goes under. Same scenario here.
We Alaskans have an opportunity to plan, produce, and develop a viable energy system. Alaksa holds the rights, ownership, and key to this pipeline development. Be Alaskan. Demand Alaska hire, require Made in America work force, vote Union.
Get her done
Yeah, that's great samiam, but once you ship natural gas to Valdez, then what? You still have to get the NG to market, which happens to be about 100 - 4,000 miles to the south and east.
Per The Newsminer the Port Authority leadership is now with the Mayor of Valdez who is the chairmen. The article stated the Mayor of Valdez said the Port Authority will watch what BP, etc will do. Again it appears Fairbanks is out of the picture in this process with the loss of the Chairmenship.
First and foremost: ALASKA is the OWNER of the gas. ConocoPhillips, BP and other companies are lease holders with contracts to develop the oil and gas resource. Breech of lease agreement(s) is grounds for termination of the lease or leases.
The State of Alaska is under NO higher priority than to meet the need of ALASKANS. Simple put, the State "SHALL" provide for the energy needs of ALL ALASKANS: with then and only then, a secondary consideration for "export" of surplus gas.
ALASKA GAS FOR ALASKA FIRST.
I still want to know if anyone is with me on trying to get the special session in June to be held here in Fairbanks.
That is the best place for this one, on this issue.
Anchorage had theirs last year, then Juneau had a special session on AGIA; this issue belongs to the interior/bush.
Negotiation Fatigue... I think I'm there.
Watching this process, I feel between the Corporations, Politicians, Lawyers, etc. involved, so greedy they can't lose a single penny - they've lost focus on the goal. This deal should have been done years ago.
I don't have any advise or suggestions exept to say - please just get it done so we can get to work!
-RK
I'm with you Corinne.
MamaSan: The Alaska Gasline Port Authority is all about providing natural gas to Alaskans. We're the priorty and the first customers, as it should be.
corinne: FAIRBANKS FOR A SPECIAL SESSION THAT DEALS WITH ALASKAN GAS.
I agree with you, but we need to SHOUT in a unified voice loud enough that they hear us clear down in Juneau.
Per the Alaska Journal of Commerce reporter Tim Bradner, Enbridge Inc. vice president Ron Brentell said his company is the best partner for BP&Conoco Phillips. Where does this place Trans Canada partnership with Enbridge,INC? What if Trans Canada gets the State's approval and takes the $500 million state incentive under AGIA and then joins partners with BP&CP. Seems like it has become a poker game in which the party that has the most money can wait it out. Texas no hold um anyone.
Corrine- We are with you all the way. The special session on the gasline must be held here in the Interior.
Why? All those legislators from Juneau and Anchorage that really do not have a clue that the Interior and many Alaska towns like Valdez have a dire energy crisis will get the message if they meet here.
Governor Palin's Numbers are, locally: 451-2920. In Juneau it is 465-3500. Sarah's email is: govpalin@alaska.gov
I appreciate that Sarah has long been a supporter of the All Alaska Gasline- North Slope to Valdez, and that she has been standing up for Alaska's interests and is committed to reviewing the LNG option.
I think she should advocate Alaska building this gasline with our massive new revenues. It would be the best thing we ever did.
I'm very heartened by the comments and interest in the gasline here on this blog. You folks really do get it.
Go back and read AGIA. The commissioners are not obligated to forward the TransCanada application and proposal to the Legislature. Even if they do, the Legislature is not obligated to approve it.
You can find the process outlined in the act (SCSCSHB 177(FIN) Page 13, Line 17 through Page 14, Line 7).
Here is a copy of my letter. I would enjoy reading the ones y'all write. I haven't clicked 'send' yet, so feel free to make any suggestions, folks.
Dear Governer Palin:
Thank you for your community service. You are doing a remarkable job as Governer. I am especially pleased with the transparency you insist upon in the legislative processes.
I am writing today to request all Special Sessions regarding construction of a natural gas or liquid natural gas pipeline, be held in Fairbanks. A Fairbanks venue would be more accessible to attend for the majority of those directly impacted by the project(s).
Thank you again your commitment to residents Alaska. I appreciate your time, attention and consideration.
Warmest Regards,
samiam
Samiam-
You should go ask the members of the Fairbanks delegation what their opinion would be of hosting a special session in Fairbanks. I think you'll find that most would not be as enthusiasitc as you think. There's a lot more that goes into a special session than simply getting 60 legislators in one room together.
I was in Anchorage for that special session last year, and there was a tremendous amount of frustration among the Anchorage and Juneau staffs. Forget about the political ramifications, the logistical considerations are difficult, complex, and actually quite expensive.
just because ramras and coghill are pro private sector doesn't automatically throw them into the pockets of big oil. please, give them a trial before you convict them and dump them in the trash heap.
Heath-
The statewide shindig (can't remember what it was called) at UAF a few years back went about fine enough. I was there for that (and I think you were around too).
The costs are borne by us. It could be done in the same manner. Preferably not at the U, but it would be worth the cost to have it here.
As far as frustration goes...I guess there's plenty of us around here feeling frustrated about not being heard in Anchortown or Juneau.
Perhaps the frustration the legislators will experience here will do them some good.
griffin: I was thinking the similar situation on the TEXAS HOLD THEM poker game. Might give pause to what might be up the sleeve of ALASKA?
Some may recall the Molly Hootch case back before the Oil pipeline was built in the 1970's. http://www.alaskool.org/native_ed/law/mh...
The Sovereign STATE of ALASKA is beholding to the ALASKA CONSTITUTION which supercedes Legislative Acts.
HUM-M-M: Is Alaskan energy needs begin met for the "SHALL" obligations of the State of Alaska to ALASKANS?
Corinne-
The Conference of Alaskans is an altogether entirely differnt prospect than a formal legislative session. The Legislature must conduct its business in a particular procedural fashion, dictated by Alaska Statute, the Uniform Rules, and Mason's. Unlike the Conference of Alaskans, all the work done and decisions made by the Alaska State Legislature are binding and become law. The Conference of Alaskans was a "Dog and Pony Show" boondoggle by the Murkowski administration to deflect criticism from any hard decisions he might have to make with regard to the budget. There was no binding outcome, thus no need for the same level of technical and logistical support.
Should the Legislature be moved from Juneau entirely? Probably so. . .but people act like their entirely out of touch with our lawmakers because they're in Juneau. From personal experience, I heard from FAR MORE Fairbanksans during legislative session that I ever did from Juneau residents. In actuality, I probably saw more Fairbanksans visit the Capitol than average Juneau residents. My point being, location does not necessarily increase participation.
Fairbanks might think its worth the additional cost to have it there, but what about the other 580,000 Alaskans? Would they agree? I'm not anti-Fairbanks, I just think some of these ideas need to be thought through a little more carefully, particularly by people have a deeper understanding of the nuances.
The Decades That Didn't Happen in Fairbanks,
30years of Sustainable jobs in a Diversified Economy
Nat-Gas ain't just "gas"..
there's various molecules that gain high value when separated and processed.
Alaskan's should take our-gas R-gas Royalty-Gas as NGL's..
natural-gas-liquids
ethane -- boiling point -128F
propane -- bp -44F
butane -- +29F
...and the Helium in Alaska's Gas is really valuable too!
[tons of NGL's get smuggled thru TAPS everyday, that's what made Exxon-Valdez such a messy gassy soup]
NS-gas is 9% ethane [C2H6]
If Alaskans ship all their ethane to Mont Bellvue,Texas...
...whuddya think the Texans are gonna make with it?
POLYETHYLENE Bead to export to China.
Why can't Alaskans make our own polyethylene-bead to use for ourselves here first, then export the surplus?
An ethylene-plant in Fairbanks would make plenty of sustainable jobs locally, and the poly-products would have a great local market.
polyfoam-insulation
poly-pipe
poly-lumber
http://images.google.com/images?um=1&...
...a poly-plant in Fairbanks won't need a smokestack, all the emissions can be reinjected into TAPS, which will redissolve into the crude.
Why nobody has made the effort to do this over the past 30years is a scandal... or a blunder as big as Exxon-Valdez.
1980, I helped manufacture 2miles of insulated concentric-wall poly-pipe... I remember the city of Kaltag paid a lotta $$$ for it then... and I don't suppose it's gotten much cheaper to buy nowdays either..
but Alaskan's can make the stuff for CHEAP!!! and cheaper by the mile.
[did you know that gold is lipophilic? yeah, gold is attracted to oil.. I've often wondered how much Alaskan-gold gets shipped out with the oil.. who get's to scrap out the old oil-refineries?]
...flash/rumble
Out In The Cold - Well stated that the Lease holders have the obligation to provide Alaska Gas for Alaskan use, then export the excess. AMEN TO THAT. With the massive avalanche in Juneau today,Juneau doesn't have enough power to support their needs. The legislatures will have to explore alternative locations for the special session. I agree, Fairbanks should host this session.
Samiam, I think we all need to step up and support Distant Thunder as well. For a time, I was not sure about his posts of here. I have since publically apologized to him for my mistake, and I think we need to write Gov. Palin and let her know we support this as well. Hey, my girlfriend says....I bet the stone masons were pissed when they came up with steel. It is the same kind of thing with this plastic pipe. Why should we continue to use steel, just because "its what we have always done". That is no longer a good reason. And, Alaskans need Alaska gas NOW!!!
HeathEdward: Maybe it is time that we need to consider BIFURCATION, say like North and South Dakota, North and South Carolina, and/or Virgina and West Virgina. It doesn't seem to be understood by Southern ALASKANS that the needs of Northern, Interior and Western ALASKANS are not being met.
I'm the first to admit that I'm not as educated as some here. I am in that happy medium of experienced but not fully educated in the oil politics of our great state. That being said, has anyone else considered bonding out the project and having the State retain the ownership of the gas line and leasing the operation of it? We do have a good bond rating as a state and a project like this would be a phenomenal opportunity to generate the resources needed to build it. There are no guarantee's in life, but I'm sure a natural gas state bond would be about as close as one could get to it... just my own two cents.
As Marie Antoinette, big oil and the legislator said to Fairbanks" Let them burn wood" after all it isn't winter now.
It all goes back to the numbers in the legislator. Anchorage and Matsu hold the cards for Alaska. I guess Fairbanks is beginning to understand how bush Alaska has felt for a long time. We don't count.
Look, before this article goes off the map, would any of you like to plan a meeting to plan to rally so we can make a serious effort to get the session held here?
I think, especially since this is a big election year in Alaska, we could hold our legislators feet to the fire on this here at home.
If we get public, ask our legislators to work for us in trying to get the session here, and they choose not to help, well, I don't think it'll look so good for them come reelection time.
Every rep., Wilken's seat, borough mayor...there's lots of electing to do.
They should answer and respond. And if they don't, then they are exposed.
It will take bodies!!! It is our turn, if you will, and that makes a pretty good opening argument.
And it needs to begin. If you guys are really interested, email me.
Otherwise, we keep bugging them as individuals, which is better than nothing. I think there is enough interest (interest=understatement) on this that people might actually get involved.
START OUR OWN WEBPAGE... SEEMS LIKE THE NEXT BEST STEP
Good for you corinne...
[and many big smelly bear hugs for all the rest of you pals]
lets get organized and pool our resources.
I'm taking a hint from my old friend Mike Gravel..
we all got computers here, so let's use them!
Let's do an online campaign, like Mike.
http://ni4d.us/
http://www.gravel2008.us/
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?us...
Many of us are telecommuting from the deep-boonies on our claim, so coming to Fairbanks is impractical.
A friend of mine liked my idea about "smartgaslinenetwork" so much, he bought the domain name for me to use.
I'm very busy multitasking a million things, and often only get 2hrs of sleep each night. So, I need help organizing the webpage. I'm thinking it would work like a wiki, where all the members can contribute ideas. I'm not a young fireball like I was 40years ago, and my webpage writing skills need a refresher, so I'm wondering if somebody wants to help with the "Sourdough Gas Passers Club".
Here's one of my favorite energy wiki's...
...maybe we can rent some space with these guys hosted inside a corner of this fun-place??
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Pa...
Passing Gas requires one, or all of the following:
a 50lb bag of pinto-beans
a propane tanker truck, or a fleet of 'em
a LPG tanker ship
an affordable gasline
seems most of us in Fairbanks, or the upper reaches of the Yukon-Koyukuk are focusing on gaslines.
Actually, we can get some of our gas from a lot closer than Gubik or Prudhoe..
smaller amounts are found near Nenana, or Beaver, or many other places. CBM, marsh-gas, syn-gas, lake ebullition, etc.
Plastic-pipe is commonly used worldwide for gas-gathering..
even in India where villages collect manure and put it in the Gobar-gas-generator,then distribute the gas to the kitchens and laundry with a simple plastic garden hose.
...but plastic-pipe is only the big-simple part of a functioning gasline-network, the rest is all of the pumps, valves, etc... all the bells and whistles.
Petrobras already has several thousand kilometers of rtp-gasline deployed on the seafloor for gas-gathering off the coast of Brasil.
Passing-gas requires continuing education as the gas-passers club matures into a local homegrown gas-cooperative. This is where state and federal laws become important for protection of the public. At this point we become industry members functioning as a block-membership.
By keeping our eyes wide open we can avoid pitfalls and shortcomings that seem to strangle the efficiency of most organizations populated by hairless-apes.
...send me a note if youz-all got anymore suggestions.
....crash/fumble
Corinne-
It will be a futile and frustrating endeavor. Forget about seeing the forest from the trees, you're not even on the map.
H
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