New low temperatures recorded in North Pole, Fairbanks
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Update: This story was changed to include a Fairbanks record-low set on Sunday night.

FAIRBANKS — An unprecedented November cold snap continues to set records around the Interior, including new lows in North Pole and Fairbanks on Sunday.

The official temperature at the KJNP weather station was 41 degrees below zero, according to the National Weather Service, eclipsing the previous record set in 1993. The weather station at Fairbanks International Airport reached 37 below Sunday night, which is one degree colder than the previous low, also in 1993.

The Fairbanks area as a whole just closed another record, with its fifth consecutive day of 35-below or colder Saturday. The previous November stretch of 35-below days in a row was just two.

Cold weather continued to hit other parts of the Interior early Sunday, with the coldest temperature at 47 below in Tok.

The average temperature in Fairbanks this week is a low of minus 9, with a high of 8 above zero.

The cold snap is expected to continue through the week. National Weather Service forecasters expect clouds and snow could arrive in the Interior today, causing a modest rise in temperatures but still well below normal.

Temperatures in the hills and higher elevations, which have recently been warmer than the valleys, are expected to turn colder through Tuesday.

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childofsol
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November 21, 2011
An Ominous Warning on the Effects of Ocean Acidification [published Feb 2010]

"Today, Ridgwell and Daniela Schmidt, also of the University of Bristol, are publishing a study in the journal Natural Geoscience, comparing what happened in the oceans 55 million years ago to what the oceans are experiencing today. Their research supports what other researchers have long suspected: The acidification of the ocean today is bigger and faster than anything geologists can find in the fossil record over the past 65 million years. Indeed, its speed and strength — Ridgwell estimate that current ocean acidification is taking place at ten times the rate that preceded the mass extinction 55 million years ago — may spell doom for many marine species, particularly ones that live in the deep ocean."

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/an_ominous_warning_on_theeffects_of_ocean_acidification/2241/

childofsol
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November 21, 2011
(continued)

"When we humans burn fossil fuels, we pump carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, where the gas traps heat. But much of that carbon dioxide does not stay in the air. Instead, it gets sucked into the oceans. If not for the oceans, climate scientists believe that the planet would be much warmer than it is today. Even with the oceans’ massive uptake of CO2, the past decade was still the warmest since modern record-keeping began. But storing carbon dioxide in the oceans may come at a steep cost: It changes the chemistry of seawater."

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/an_ominous_warning_on_theeffects_of_ocean_acidification/2241/
childofsol
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November 21, 2011
soc

Believe it or not, those idiot PhD's have ways of separating natural variations from those produced from greenhouse gases. Hypothesize (or suspect) all you want. For years, experts have been collecting and analyzing data to test their hypotheses.

"Fox viewers are the most misinformed about climate change"

http://www.grist.org/list#item-2011-11-21-fox-viewers-are-the-most-misinformed-about-climate-change

Wow, who would have thought? Now that it has been firmly established that Fox News IS misreprenting the facts, the next question is "WHY?"
sonofchulio
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November 21, 2011
The question is not if there is climate change, global warming, or none of the above. The question is if mankind has any significant part to play, either in causing climate change or reversing climate change. If the answer to those 2 questions is "no", as I suspect it is, then all the efforts of "the world is coming to an end" and the "let's tax energy until only wealthy people can afford it" proponents are not only futile, but counter productive to our economy and security.
Alaskanthruandthru
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November 21, 2011
What is worst, being an idiot or being naive?
Afterburner
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November 21, 2011
I want Global Warming and I want it now!
Alaskanthruandthru
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November 21, 2011
I'm doing my part to make the globe a warmer place, are you doing yours?
teapartypatriot_2
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November 21, 2011
I think the Borough tax assessor should lower our accessed property values since we are considerably colder than property in the hills. We also have sulfolane in our ground water. Do you think they will do that? No they will not. The over assessment of property values is a crime here. I know of one apartment complex assessed at $371,000 that has been on sale for $269,000 for almost a year with no takers. Tell me about white collar white crime. Our Borough Tax assessors should all go to jail!

People like Cox get the book thrown at them while the assessors keep their high paying jobs and benefits.
Afterburner
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November 21, 2011
The FNSB are our landlords and there is no real rent control here, they can charge as much as they want.

The Fairbanks North Star Borough is way too big, it could be it's own state as a matter of fact, the political demographics are also too polarized to effectively represent us. The borough system by it's nature tends to be very autocratic, but we would have to change the AK Constitution I believe if we wanted to change it. It at least needs to be divided east and west, Progressive Liberals supported by UAF are far more to the west and Conservative U.S. Constitutional Purists tend to reside more as you head east of Ft. Wainwright.
rogerx
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November 21, 2011
Afterburner: I don't think splitting something like that is going to work, as I think it would just make whatever worse.

My advice is to live the honest life and call the FNSB to re-evaluate your house. And, watch some TBN instead of passing the channel over all the time.

The County of San Diego (California) is multitudes larger then FNSB and they seem to be doing just fine. Including, they have their own County Sheriffs unlike FNSB. But they're a mess of wimps out there with year round 70-90F weather.

This housing stuff is more nationwide then just local, too.
InfofreakJensen
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November 21, 2011
You guy's do know that the government can control the weather with a thing called HAARP
ReillyJones
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November 21, 2011
umm Dude...your foil hat is crooked...
childofsol
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November 21, 2011
sigh....yet another example of an article about weather leading to climate change denial.

sleeping

What comments did you post about climate change under the the following article "Drought leaves slim pickings for migrating birds", also in today's Newsminer?

Sometimes I wonder how some people get through their lives so misinformed. And I also wonder whether they trust the education and experience of ANYONE. Do they see a doctor when there's a problem, or treat themselves with eye of newt? Do they refuse to build a house the way it was designed to be built by an engineer?
Bessah
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November 21, 2011
I live up here in northwest Alaska & yes it was scary! My town didn't get hit bad as others. In Shishmeraf they got hit with 107mph winds. That's really scary when it's snow & ice. My town was hit with 80mph. There were floodings in some villiages. We experienced very strange weather in the past few years, VERY strange. How would you feel if your whole house felt like it was going through rough turbulance all night long? On top of that, I have to worry about Polar bears roaming the city now
nickeli
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November 21, 2011
Prominent global warming alarmist Joe Romm, who works under renewable power lobbyist John Podesta at the Center for American Progress, wrote in September 2008:

“In Virginia, the weather also has changed dramatically. Recently arrived residents in the northern suburbs, accustomed to today's anemic winters, might find it astonishing to learn that there were once ski runs on Ballantrae Hill in McLean, with a rope tow and local ski club. Snow is so scarce today that most Virginia children probably don't own a sled.”

In February, 2010, Romm’s tune changed:

"Ideologues in the Senate keep pushing the anti-scientific disinformation that big snowstorms are evidence against human-caused global warming,” said Romm.

And, for good measure, Romm added, "The snow we've seen is entirely consistent with global warming theory."

Ten years ago, David Viner from the University of East Anglia said “Snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event.” “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.”

Bessah
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November 21, 2011
I truly agree! “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.”

I live 33miles above the arctic circle. During summers, I see a lot of methane bubbling up from the ponds, lakes & on the coasts. My sister travels during the summer regularly down the coasts and her and her hubby are always taking pictures of permafrost ice not only melting & dripping but the lands are broken up!
rationalcitizen
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November 21, 2011
Nickeli,

Your comments are funny, and show just how cherry picked opponents to global warming are in their rebuttals.

For one there is a big difference between having ski resorts, and just getting snow in the winter. You can't have a real ski run, if you only get a few snow storms during the year...which is likely about all Virgina gets any more.

Then you go on to quote some dude in England. Did you think for a second that England is an entirely different climate that Virgina or Alaska for that matter...and that he might be talking about English children, and not children everywhere? Snow in England is a rare thing NOW ...and so his comments are quite appropriate if as he predicts England warms up.

I don't think there is a climate scientist alive who is predicting snow will disappear from the entire globe any time soon. Though climate warming deniers seem to think as long as it snows somewhere its not warming up.
aksala
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November 21, 2011
Off topic, but anyone know wht happen to that goose that was in Cramers Field?
alaska1999
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November 21, 2011
Of course we all know that global warming refers to an increase in the average global temperature. It doesn't mean Alaska will be warm in the winter. If the temperature is one degree higher on average for example, that doesn't mean it can't fall to negative forty. Things like the longer growing season are indicative of the local temperature increasing on average. Of course skeptics are quick to point out a cold snap as disproving the facts. This year the long wave weather patterns are affected by la Nina and forecasters were expecting colder than normal temperatures. That don't mean the global average is falling. It is pretty much rising as was predicted decades ago.
aksala
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November 21, 2011
Climate change happens. Never forget the dinosaurs use to roam the interior. The one thing that needs to be looked at is over what period of time. I think this change has more to do with the PDO Pacific Decadal Oscillation google PDO Index. The stated a few years back Alaska would be experiencing a 10 year drop in temps due to the PDO.But I don't think arguing about PDO is as much fun as it is over climate change.
nickeli
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November 21, 2011
We are in the middle of an ice age. Ice ages include both cold and warm periods; at the moment we are experiencing a relatively warm span of time known as an interglacial period. Geologists believe that the warmest part of this period occurred from 1890 through 1945 and that since 1945 things have slowly begun freezing up again.

woodchopper
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November 21, 2011
Dude we are not in the middle of an ice age. We are in the interglacial period. The climate data do not show that the warmest was from 1890 to 1945. The data show that in the last 50 years the temps have been increasing far warmer than 100 years ago. Based off of ice core data. What are you referring to?
Sirkahn
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November 21, 2011
In 1998 NASA released a first ever report that stated: "Global warming is clearly a fact. In the coming decade it will lead to larger high and low pressure systems, which in turn will create more severe weather conditions including more severe floods, droughts and storms." - It simply amazes me that people still think that global warming is a joke and try to use their little local cold spell as a reasoning.... What you have is a larger than normal high pressure system. Exactly as NASA forecasted ...... Get ready for more.
Bessah
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November 21, 2011
I live up in Kotzebue. When we were getting the "super" storm, I was afraid. I definitely thought about climate changes. It wasn't that bad of a storm for my town but made me aware of what we can expect. I jokingly made a comment on FB that next time a storm like that hit town that I'd board up my windows & stay in the hospital for shelter. That night we had 80mph winds and my floor beneath me literally rumbled you could feel it! It really moved. I could not sleep at all that night. My house kept having a huge loud thump hit it. Idk if it were the wind or if the wind was pushing something that hard. It sounded very scary, though. It does amaze me as well that people think global warming is a joke. Last winter we it rained for days, maybe 3 or 4. That was scary as well. It made me realize then that ANYthing can happen and anything can cause our deaths up here. It must have been in January or Feb? I can't recall which month it was, but it sure did give me a new scare
Bessah
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November 21, 2011
also the night of the "super" storm, it literally felt as if my house were flying and going through turbulance every few minutes. Other towns have had severe flooding in the Northwest of Alaska during that storm, we were lucky. But it does still terrifies me. Alaska is unpredictable weather-wise. We had storms in 2009 to where a small cargo plane crashed onto the frozen ice in front of town. The "super" storm was just like the other storm we had in 2009, well less. In 2009 people couldn't see anything and got stuck inside of their job environments. A woman was found dead just a block fm where I live. very crazy weather. We usually get hurricane like winds. I'm use to it, bit this year I'm actually more afraid.
Bessah
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November 21, 2011
http://www.adn.com/2011/11/08/2160989/2011-bering-sea-storm.html#storylink=misearch

look at the slideshow
Tom58
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November 21, 2011
"Only idiots confuse weather with climate. "

Agreed. Anyone with any education knows that weather is an atmospheric phenomenon which would tend to provide evidence suggesting that the planet is not warming catastrophically. It is short-term, proves nothing, and can be utterly ignored. Climate consists of anything even remotely suggestive of catastrophic warming. It is proof-positive that we need more laws, regulation, taxes, and subsidies for the right politically-connected businesses. Thus, a decade of flat, or cooling, worldwide temperatures is WEATHER. A single unusually hot day would be considered CLIMATE.
hrdharry
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November 21, 2011
My neighbors had a vote yes prop 2 sign in their yard, and I noticed the fuel truck ran it over. This cold weather might be a wake up call for these well off politicians and government workers, when they have to morgtage their homes to pay their fuel and electric bills.
sendlawyersgunsandmoney
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November 21, 2011
see today's article in the Alaska Dispatch: http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/spruce-growth-accelerates-alaskas-treeline-temperatures-rise

Only idiots confuse weather with climate.
1TarBaby
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November 21, 2011
Calling all environmentalists, calling all environmentalists! Hello, hello, where's that global warming you've been trying to tax? the EPA says CO2 is dangerous to your health! while that means all of us carbonated pop drinkers are going to die. And the doctors doing keyhole surgery into the abdomen are going to have to quit using CO2 to pump it up. And demonized CO2 fire extinguishers, must be banned because they are a threat to public health.

Do you guys know that the Canadian crude oil will be burned and create carbon dioxide in China if it's not burned in the United States?

-30.

I slept soundly last night knowing if the power went off. I could fire up my wood stove and save my life, the lives of my pets and my house from frozen pipes.

Mr.roadtrip
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November 21, 2011
Hm, It's going to be a long winter.
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